Getting a coach in who had the first idea what he was doing would be a start though

I'm not sure on the relevance the ownership of the club has in relation to what I said? I mentioned board level, not shareholders. The directors who have an impact on the playing side of things, CEO, DOR, etc - the people who sit around a table and disuss the direction and strategy of our club.

Nor did I lay most of the blame at his door(?).




Again, I didn't solely blame Pearson, I blame those that are/were in positions of power and decision-making since he bought the club.

I've just e mailed the club letting them know of my dissatisfaction at our current plight and coaching appointment and to inform them I will not be renewing my season pass. Pedantic it may be but I just felt I had to try do something positive instead of just chuntering on here. Used this address tellus@hullfc.com

I've just e mailed the club letting them know of my dissatisfaction at our current plight and coaching appointment and to inform them I will not be renewing my season pass. Pedantic it may be but I just felt I had to try do something positive instead of just chuntering on here. Used this address tellus@hullfc.com

I have been one of the biggest critics regarding the impact that McRae had using Howes as almost an exclusive supply chain of players. However, I can't buy the argument that the recruitment has placed us in this position.

Many players are signed each season by all clubs, some work out and some don't. I have no idea if Pitts was signed on an excessive contract but one thing I do know is many on here were very impressed with his form at some stage last season. Just compare the signing of Carvell, which Radford was responsible for, and the contract he will have been on and tell me if Pitts would have been any less of a player to have in the squad.

My point is maybe some of the salary cap could have been better spent, but in reality we are talking about 20% of the cap. I am confident in thinking that Cas are spending way less than 20% under the cap and so are Wakefield. It annoys me that blaming the tools left at his disposal has turned Radford in to an apologist who doesn't seem to want to say sorry but I am not getting anything like what is capable from this squad.

If there are issues and weak areas in a team, play to the strengths that the team has. I see no tactical sense and structured play that would win games we are narrowly losing.

Radford was brought in to correct what was seen as player power and weak management. Well it seems to me that all Radford changed was to call players out in public and treat them like children with banishment to Doncaster. I feel like the so called soft approach of Gentle was misread as weakness when in reality it was probably good man management. You work with what you have and any problem players are slowly moved on while you still get the best possible from them, especially if they are key players.

Let us know the reply you get,it might be the same as mine stick with us.
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Quote ="Bombed Out"I've just e mailed the club letting them know of my dissatisfaction at our current plight and coaching appointment and to inform them I will not be renewing my season pass. Pedantic it may be but I just felt I had to try do something positive instead of just chuntering on here. Used this address tellus@hullfc.com'" Fair enough and can't blame you for taking that action. It does feel as though threads on here are just going round in circles and nothing is really happening at the club. AP is worryingly quiet for me and would like to know what he is doing to improve things.

Quote ="Bombed Out"I've just e mailed the club letting them know of my dissatisfaction at our current plight and coaching appointment and to inform them I will not be renewing my season pass. Pedantic it may be but I just felt I had to try do something positive instead of just chuntering on here. Used this address tellus@hullfc.com'" Fair enough and can't blame you for taking that action. It does feel as though threads on here are just going round in circles and nothing is really happening at the club. AP is worryingly quiet for me and would like to know what he is doing to improve things.

I completely agree with you on every point about Radford. Apologies if my post implied it, but I wasn't saying it was solely poor recruitment that put us in this position, more a combination of Radford mixed with a few years of poor recruitment decisions and direction from our DOR's & Pearson.

I quoted your post as I agreed with your points. Just wanted to add that I think recruitment is being hidden behind as the main problem. Especially by the club. I couldn't believe I was hearing Radford quote that £400,000 of the cap was unavailable, as he implied it had been wasted on certain players. He has only himself to blame for not getting the best from those players.

If certain players are on £100,000 and they should be on £75,000, they are still £75,000 players, therefore stop moaning about what they earn and get the best out of them. Its almost like the first day as head coach for Radford was spent looking through personnel files at what players earned and anyone who earned more than Radford and didn't deserve it in his eyes went on to a black list.

do we have any player genuinely worth £75k, I don't think we do.

The way some of them have played this season I don't think they're worth 75p...

I can see why Ellis is paid more than that, in a strong competitive team I could see him being worth every penny.

If the going rate for a SL player is around £60,000 then in theory many of our players are worth £75,000 as they would find other clubs willing to pay them that. Although I agree with your sentiment that non of the team are worth that going on this years efforts.

It would be interesting to know what Tuson earns, he wont have moved from Wigan for peanuts and can do no wrong in Radford's eyes, yet to me sums up the abject averageness of FC.

I think Sue Smith is still the PA to Adam Pearson. He won't have an email address that takes unsolicited mails. Email sue.smith@hullfc.com and ask her to pass it on. FWIW, IF Radford is sacked/leaves, Motu will be put in charge until a successor is found.

I think Sue Smith is still the PA to Adam Pearson. He won't have an email address that takes unsolicited mails. Email sue.smith@hullfc.com and ask her to pass it on. FWIW, IF Radford is sacked/leaves, Motu will be put in charge until a successor is found.

www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... story.html Sounds like hollow words now

www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... story.html Sounds like hollow words now

What if Crooks doesn't want to play for Hull ?

Then we need to ask why. He was happy enough last year.

Last year he didn't have the accolades he has now and an agent telling him to cash in on them.

Good answer Kosh. If that is true then it's very disappointing.

Rumours have been circulating for a while that he wouldn't sign an extension and his agent wanted more money than we thought he was worth. Sounds sadly familiar TBH.

Players like that always end up fooked. Agents are not there for career advancement - they get their 15% and are happy to push paper.

You'd think his father would be savvy about it, but if he goes, it's no big loss. Wingers and centres are abundant, particularly ones who don't have suspect defence.

Maybe things have changed ? I just threw it in for balance really - not claiming to know owt but it's not always the club at fault in these situations.

If Crooks demands for a new contract are deemed too much and he can get better elsewhere then let him go now for a fee or get him to play out his current deal and he can move on then. However until he leaves I can't see the logic in freezing him out. He's still getting paid and remains a capable player, better than some of the alternatives we have tried in the centres where the policy is anyone but Crooks. Not playing him for what seems non playing reasons looks petty and spiteful and I can't see how it helps Hull win.

It was a fair comment to throw in. Whatever the reason is (if there is indeed and reason and it's not just rumour) then the club should be asking themselves why he wants to leave and what they could have done to prevent it. Presuming they want to prevent it.

The thing is, if I was him I wouldn't be signing a new deal unless it was for the money I wanted in his shoes, either. At the start of the season he'd just won YPOTY, was in the reigning dream team, and been handed the number 3 shirt. Hull will have had excessive value out of him last year whilst he was probably on a relatively low wage, and he was probably backing himself to have another good season and strengthen his bargaining position. I can understand why he'd hold back on committing himself.

Since then we've gone down the pan quicker than a lead turd, with him not getting a great time of things seemingly, so he's possibly got some new and just as understandable reasons for not being keen on staying.

What is slight potential to worry to me is this new stance on player worth. We've apparently been paying over the odds recently, but are now possibly going the other way and treating it as some sort of unbreakable rule that players have to be paid what we deem fit or else be hounded out of the building. That's possibly cutting our noses off to spite our faces. Being sensible, any decent deal for a player worth having will end up with a club paying slightly more than they'd like and the player earning slightly less than he was hoping for. The trick for the club is for good coaching to improve the player enough to 'recoup' the extra money.

Obviously I'm not claiming to know any details or making any judgment on who is right/wrong in this specific circumstance.

with your permission, I'd like to borrow that term in a meeting I have tomorrow?

Not necessarily. If they keep proving themselves worth what they ask for they'll do fine.

The mistake some fans make is to pick a side without knowing the facts.

As for abundance, I'd say that solid defensive centres are certainly more common than the ones who can open the opposition defence. Partly because with decent coaching the defensive side of the game is much more teachable.