So our problem is lack of creativity, our only creative players are out injured, but you don't buy the 'injuries excuse'?

How does that work then?



Oh - and attacking creativity is not our only problem. I only wish it were.

god knows.. i buy a season pass because im an hull fc supporter no matter what.

The attacking structures and set plays should still be in place regardless of who is playing, on Friday it was glaringly obvious that we have no attacking moves in our nal at all. That isn't down to players being injured, that's down to the training (or lack of)

but I suppose the happy clappy fans just assume that the injured players will return and we'll start playing like the Harlem Globetrotters and head to the top of the table

Did you not see the interview with Gentle? The one where he specifically said that we simplified things so not to put too much pressure on our 2nd row halves? That to me says we didn't put our normal structures in place due to injuries.

It is worrying though that our entire attacking structures rely on Holdsworth & McDonnell, and that due to their injuries the rest of the team can't settle into them and grow accustomed.

Despite all of his moaning, it was Peter Gentles choice to go with Westerman and Whiting in the halves. He could have gone with Horne and Heremai (sp) who must have 500 first grade games between them at half back and move Whiting to full back where he has proved in the past he is more than competent.
Instead he opted to try and out muscle Rovers and bizzarely employ an interchange half back whilst running your hooker into the ground who must have done about 60 tackles leaving nothing in the tank to attack.

I agree in a way with regards to houghton..

But what more could gentle do to be honest. Yes possibly start horny in the halves with whiting full back, but didn't horny actually play in the halves when we were attacking with whiting playing a more LF role. In defense horny at full back and whiting out wide to provide extra cover.

Totally agree regarding attacking structures.one of the big failings,is our inability to get off the floor quickly, for a quick play the ball.

Shaun Wane was furious with his team at HT versus St Helens on Friday,
as his team were too slow getting off the floor to play the ball, this meant his halves had nothing to play on the back of ,a slow play the ball.

I don't understand why our 17 fulltime players, cannot attain this basic skill.

Never mind slow play of the ball - keeping the ball long enough to get tackled would be a start, let's not walk before we can run eh!

Indeed, just rank bad coaching

Briscoe
Crookes
Crooks
Arundel
Lineham
Whiting
Horne
O'Meley
Houghton
Watts
Galea
Tickle
Westerman

Heramaia
Green
Pitts
Johnson

Should have trained all week and would have given Rovers a tougher afternoon in my eyes but its easy to say that in hindsight

Do they practice getting up off the floor. to play the ball?

wouldnt our teams be top ov SL if we were all coaching!!! lol

You are Stevo and I demand my £5!

What EHFCF said.

Also, we had attacking structures last season and in the first few games of this season up until Holdsworth's injury. Since then we have been adjusting structures in an attempt to fit them to available personnel. Gentle has referred to this in almost every interview. I guess people aren't listening.

Fans have been down to training and seen us practising attacking plays and structures. This part of the coaching is not an issue. What [iis[/i an issue is that without Holdsworth on the pitch we apparently have a group of players utterly unable to put the coaches instructions into practice. I don't know why that is or whose fault it is, and frankly I don't care. It needs to be fixed and Gentle has to come up with a way to do that, regardless of whether it's his fault or not.

Oh - and your last comment is just stupid. Sorry to be blunt but TBH I'm fed up with people only being able to see two polar opposite positions on this. It's perfectly possible to be unhappy with the way things are and still be rational about the reasons behind it.

No. Gentle tells them to lay there and have a nice rest between tackles.

It wouldn't have been my choice to move Horne to FB. Or Whiting for that matter. However, Heremaia at 7 has been tried and failed to work.

Houghton was terrible in attack throughout the entire game. It had nothing to do with how tired he was. For me we should be starting with Hermaia and playing Houghton off the bench.

The only people who are speaking any sense in this thread are Rovers fans. I actually feel they feel sorry for us and rightly so.

Cant wait to see what happens tomorrow. We lose and Kosh will still be a pedantic tw@ to everyone, we win and the world will be at our feet and Gentle will be our savious and it will all be the players fault

:tddepmj5
Not surprised to see you say that.

Houghton needs to be spelled for his own protection and development. His desire plus the fact he is a target means that he will always have to do a lot of defence. The rest of his game isnt developing as it should be as a consequence. I know that i will get shot down on here but Josh Hodgson is now a superior all round player.

He is currently and I think a lot of his form is due to the fact he isn't slogging it out for 80 minutes

We just drop Carlile or Withers in there when required for 15-20 minutes a game it seems

Not by me you won't.

Looks that way to me.

It means your a sad drip stuck at home with nothing better to do in his sad Worcester life

On the flip side hes obviouslt NOT telling then to do it either.

Of course it does.

This place gets worse and worse.