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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I doubt that gentle has been the driver in recruiting players from SL. How may games do you think he's seen arundell and crookes play?'"
I have no idea how much he's seen. But I would say that if he hasn't seen much then it's a huge problem. It's a plain and simple fact that most recruitment needs to come from this country, so I'd expect him to be doing as much research as possible and watching plenty of DVDs to learn about the players around SL pretty f**king quickly.
I really don't understand why so many Hull fans seem to have a problem with ever accepting that a situation is actually as it is described, it seems that there always have to be claims that something sinister is going on.
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| Quote ="Kosh"This would be the first choice halfbacks who include someone who is pretty much universally agreed not to be good enough for a top side, would it?'"
But your argument is we have players either playing out of position or who are new to the team.
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3 of our 3/4#s who have been playing together for 3 seasons
Our 1st choice half back combo
2 of our 1st choice back rowers
2 of our 1st choice front rowers
Now I don't expect us to be at our best with the players we had missing, however it isn;t an excuse for the disorganisation and lack of dummy runners and support play we saw tonight, and which has been evident for some weeks now
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Can you imagine the outcry on here if at the start of this season Pearson or Gentle said we would struggle to make the play offs?'"
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So you think he should've said "Actually, we've no chance of the top four"?
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So you think he should've said "Actually, we've no chance of the top four"?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Possibly the most one-sided officiating I've ever seen. Forward passes that weren't. Offsides that weren't. Passes off the floor that weren't. Pushing after being taken out worse than the original offence. Knock ons that were backwards. And then the inconsistency of giving penalties. From the moment the ref bottled binning Ablett (think it was him) for a professional foul (holding back one of our players on the break), I knew it was gonna be a joke.
All I can say is defensively, to only concede 3 tries against a Leeds team with all that possession near our line and most of it from dubious refereeing decisions was remarkable. In attack, we were gash, but we had to chase the game from stupid positions in wet conditions so it was always going to be a tall order.
That game has just put me right off going to any more Leeds away games. He was even wearing the same colour.'"
Wellsey A really good summary of what we have seen tonight - I agree with you we were gash at times but the officiating was a disgrace - After watching the SOO this week we as as a game have gone backwards.The Refs and Touch Judges were great. Some-one I know said this week to me why dont we try to bring in 6 Aussie Refs for a time - maybe 3 months - at least it would give us more options. If clubs can pay ordinary players shed loads of money to come over here then I think the RL should consider this. Opinion please?
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"Unbelievable. I have said this to the wife earlier. I have supported Hull Fc and Rugby League for over 35 years, through thick and thin and never have I felt so detached from the game as whole.'"
I feel the same. Very rarely even bother watching the SKY games live any more. Generally watch them on fast forward and just watch the tries. Can't remember the last time I bothered watching any of the other SKY RL programmes all the way through
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I have no idea how much he's seen. But I would say that if he hasn't seen much then it's a huge problem. It's a plain and simple fact that most recruitment needs to come from this country, so I'd expect him to be doing as much research as possible and watching plenty of DVDs to learn about the players around SL pretty f**king quickly.
I really don't understand why so many Hull fans seem to have a problem with ever accepting that a situation is actually as it is described, it seems that there always have to be claims that something sinister is going on.'"
Great post. So many moaners and conspires about alleged 'unrest' or 'fall outs'. We get it every season, funnily enough never when we're in a good run of form.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"So you think he should've said "Actually, we've no chance of the top four"?'"
Wtf are you on about ?
Had you read the thread correctly you would have understood I was responding to a post which claims fans expectations are too high, my response was that of course they are when there are articles claiming we will make top 4!
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Great post. So many moaners and conspires about alleged 'unrest' or 'fall outs'. We get it every season, funnily enough never when we're in a good run of form.'"
When did we last finish a season in good form ?
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| good post wellsy,thought the effort was there tonight, but we have injuries now and a lot of them, even with a fully fit team we are a top 5 or 6 team,without half of them we are gonna struggle, am not writing this year of but its gonna be a struggle,hopefully next year we can start the climb up the table,i see the usual suspects are on here with there usual doom and gloom,at least there will have a good night in bed with there socks
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I have no idea how much he's seen. But I would say that if he hasn't seen much then it's a huge problem. It's a plain and simple fact that most recruitment needs to come from this country, so I'd expect him to be doing as much research as possible and watching plenty of DVDs to learn about the players around SL pretty f**king quickly.
I really don't understand why so many Hull fans seem to have a problem with ever accepting that a situation is actually as it is described, it seems that there always have to be claims that something sinister is going on.'"
I seem to remember Gentle saying in an interview with Humberside when he first arrived that even before he'd got here he'd spent his time watching as many dvd's of the last few seasons of superleague as possible.
The way he is shipping out players that were signed previously and feels are not the type he wants already, I would say is an indication that he wont be letting anyone come in unless he has indicated he wants them.
The club was in such a mess when AP took over that Gentle has his hands full with first team affairs without the distraction of the contract negociations once he's identified the player he wants.
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| Someone should start a falling out of love with the game thread for some of the downers on here
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| dont die bet,your my fav barmaid
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"Wtf are you on about ?
Had you read the thread correctly you would have understood I was responding to a post which claims fans expectations are too high, my response was that of course they are when there are articles claiming we will make top 4!'"
Thanks, I'm capable of reading and comprehending a thread.
I've asked what you think the club should be saying with regards targets.
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| Quote ="hull2524"dont die bet,your my fav barmaid'"
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| to right pjhoe, there get on my t.ts and its the same ones
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Hang on a minute. You're simultaneously saying that we should have been better because the players have been training together for months, AND because we had our 3 first choice playmakers, 2 of whom have spent less time training with the squad than most.
I'm not saying you aren't right that our basics should be better, but your reasoning contained a glaring inconsistency there.'"
Which 2 have spent less time training with the squad than most? heremaia I can accept to a certain extent but he's been training with them for some time. horne has been here forever and seymour best part of a season
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Thanks, I'm capable of reading and comprehending a thread.
I've asked what you think the club should be saying with regards targets.'"
This has nothing to do with what I think, this is about how a large proportion of fans will interpret claims made just a few weeks ago and previous after the Leeds game without looking, that our club will finish in the top 4, [ufans expectations will rise.[/u
Personally I am starting to think our PR is the worst I can remember for some time.
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"
Personally I am starting to think our PR is the worst I can remember for some time.'"
In what way is it worse than the last, say, three years?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"In what way is it worse than the last, say, three years?'"
Yes
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| yea it has been in hdm about top 4 finnish, even when we where doing well i thought it was a tad unlikely,but next year
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| not down hearted by Hull FC tonight...i thought the damage was done in first half....mentioning no names........turner and manu looked careless...so gnelte start trying players like pearce green lineham etc.
turner and manu can go to saints now for me. give nothing, cost us more.
crooks is a star for the future.....unlucky hull....bit more of killer edge and we will be reet
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| I know squad numbers don't tell the whole story, but they do give a certain amount of indication about who is and isn't first choice, so here are a few things to note about them: Only 9 of the 17 tonight had a squad number between 1 and 17, so almost half of the team was not first choice. Our [iaverage[/i squad number tonight wasn't even between 1 and 17, it was 19. This was significantly influenced by 5 of tonight's squad having numbers over 25; at the start of the season these players were not even close to being in our plans.
I think what we really need now is for the season to end, as it seems quite clear that there are a few in our camp who are pretty much done for the year, and several who just aren't good enough and we need to replace them. I'm as fed up as any with the last few seasons of 'wait until next year', but at least this time I feel like the people running the club actually feel the same and want to put it right. The recruitment announcements need to show that faith is not misplaced.
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