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| Quote ="Hutchie"Oops am i not towing the protectors of the club party line, i do apologise'"
Oh, stop being so precious.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"You might 'Love them to come out and say how much we have p*ssed down the drain...." WHY? why do we need to know, what are we looking for here? A couple of grand down the drain to beat the club with? The club, with the exception of leaving it late to get an MP involved (who was probably next to useless anyway as he had a few more pressing matters to deal with) has done little wrong here. I will judge their finacial performance when the year end figures come out! In the short term at least as far as the business is concerned we have saved ourselves, or the Government has saved us, £130,000 this season at least!!! How we reinvest that saving remains to be seen!
There are bound to have been some admin costs including Solicitors, and a few shirts to replace, and I bet James Rules phone bill is a bit steep too! But the fact is that we will never know the costs of the aborted attempt to get crocker here simply because to an organisation that turns over around £4.5m per annum it will be negligable. We are not (sadly) shareholders so we have no right to know, however had he been paid then as fans we would probably had some concerns but only because we would see it as a possible drain on finance that we could have spent elsewhere. Reardon, Crocker and Lueuki have been paid nothing (so far) so our cap funds are intact.
I am more interested myself to know what we will do with the money we have spare this year now the Crocker deal has fallen through. Add his wage to the difference between Byrnes Salary and his settlement and I guess we have a lot!!
Leave this one alone, the club will give us all plenty to have a go at in the future, thy always do!!! On this one, by and large, it is others that are to blame!'"
Get back on the train!
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Oops am i not towing the protectors of the club party line, i do apologise'"
Should think so too
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| Quote ="Kosh"We won't have paid him his wages. He was never an employee.
We may have paid him a proportion of any signing-on fee, if there was one. That might be claimed back.
Or we may have given him a loan against his wages, which will now need to be repaid.
There are numerous possibilities, but I'm willing to bet we've spent the absolute minimum possible.'"
No change there then.
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"Some good points from the smallears.
When i'm talking about expenses, lets see how many shirts have to be refunded also.
Trip to Aus for Jimmy and Kath.
Any signing on fee
Possible wages
I'm not "blaming" anyone, as has been said, fair do's to Crocker, he waited. Cant have a go at the board, it's not them that turnes the visa down.
HOWEVER, there still must be some loss to Hull FC financially. I just wondered how much!'"
The same amount to this point in time will have been spent as if the case were that Crocker had his reapplication approved.
Granted it was probably a bit more than the petrol money to the motorway service station that Scott Gibbs was supposed to turn up at.
From another point of view, Crockers non arrival could well have cost Hull FC a fair few quid in revenue going forward.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"
From another point of view, Crockers non arrival could well have cost Hull FC a fair few quid in revenue going forward.'"
Thank you, someone able to see outside the box!
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"Thank you, someone able to see outside the box!'"
Depends who he is replaced by.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Depends who he is replaced by.'"
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Depends who he is replaced by.'"
Brilliant - more endless months of speculation and disappointment.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Depends who he is replaced by.'"
There'll be a short-term cost anyway, although much of it will be difficult to quantify.
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| They have got to bring in a top class name for 2010 .
Pass sales , corperate sponsorship , and profile of the Club depend on it.
It`s time now for the Club to become Grade "A" on the pitch as well as off.
Fulfill the potential that Hull FC has .
Massive fan base . Best Stadium Club RL in Britain has to offer.
This would even mean more revenue for our "Chairperson". So come on Kath , back the Club and make it happen . The opportunity is there to be taken!
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| some peoples attempts to slag the club off for absolutely everything and anything are completely pathetic
they went to Aus last year, missed out on Dobson but signed the biggest signing for superleague this year, every single club in the league would have made him an offer and every single club would have had to wait this long for a Visa and every single club would have still received the same rejection.
Bradford didn't get Bird, Huddersfield didn't get Carney, Leeds didn't get Eastwood...
yet people still feel is Hull's fault
I whinge about a lot of things this board does, but they cannot be blamed for immigration laws becoming substantially tougher without any prior warning.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Brilliant - more endless months of speculation and disappointment.
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Well this is RLfans.
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| Quote ="UllFC"some peoples attempts to slag the club off for absolutely everything and anything are completely pathetic
they went to Aus last year, missed out on Dobson but signed the biggest signing for superleague this year, every single club in the league would have made him an offer and every single club would have had to wait this long for a Visa and every single club would have still received the same rejection.
Bradford didn't get Bird, Huddersfield didn't get Carney, Leeds didn't get Eastwood...
yet people still feel is Hull's fault
I whinge about a lot of things this board does, but they cannot be blamed for immigration laws becoming substantially tougher without any prior warning.'"
Awesome post, take a bow son.
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"I'd love them to come out and state just how much we have p!$$ed down the drain on Crocker.
We know it will have cost us a bit. Just how much?
I think we are entitled to know where our money goes.......'"
Are you kidding?
Crocker sold a shed load of season passes in difficult times and cost the club next to nothing. KERCHING!
Now if you were to suggest that it was a conspiracy with Crocker to sell a few passes under false pretences then...
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| Quote ="UllFC"some peoples attempts to slag the club off for absolutely everything and anything are completely pathetic
they went to Aus last year, missed out on Dobson but signed the biggest signing for superleague this year, every single club in the league would have made him an offer and every single club would have had to wait this long for a Visa and every single club would have still received the same rejection.
Bradford didn't get Bird, Huddersfield didn't get Carney, Leeds didn't get Eastwood...
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I whinge about a lot of things this board does, but they cannot be blamed for immigration laws becoming substantially tougher without any prior warning.'"
Spot on mate.. but I presume it's the whole spectrum of issues that have got the speccies backs up rather than Crockergate in isolation
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"They have got to bring in a top class name for 2010 .
Pass sales , corperate sponsorship , and profile of the Club depend on it.
It`s time now for the Club to become Grade "A" on the pitch as well as off.
Fulfill the potential that Hull FC has .
Massive fan base . Best Stadium Club RL in Britain has to offer.
This would even mean more revenue for our "Chairperson". So come on Kath , back the Club and make it happen . The opportunity is there to be taken!'"
I would say we need two players tbh. One real top signing to play 6/7 and then either a fullback or a centre depending on who we retain for 2010. We have the quota space and we have the money so we must deliver.
That said in the last two season the club have delivered on the big name front, we got Berrigan and then Crocker, it't not the club's fault Crocker never came and as to the cost, I would say it's fairly minimal and should be of no concern to the fans to be quite honest.
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| One things for sure we need quality and we need players who are skilled in one position, if Cusack does not get a new contract we have 3 overseas positions to fill, a scrum half and a right side centre are an absolute must and the possibility of a full back depending on what happens with Motu Tony.
We have gone down the line of signing utility players in the past and it hasn`t worked, we need to sign players who are skilled in the postion they play.
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| Quote ="Stanley Unwin"I never get why fans think this. You pay your money to see the game and that's exactly what it entitles you to.....nothing more.
If you buy a bed from Bob's world of Beds....are you entitled to know what Bob does with your money???
You either choose to buy the product or you don't....nothing more nothing less'"
I thought it was all about buying into the experience nowadays.
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| So far as I can work out there'll be a payment of £360 by the club to the UKBA. £190 for the first work permit (first application) and £170 for the certificate of sponsorship (second application). The cost of the sponsor licence doesn't just apply to Crocker's case so we can't include that.
Not a huge amount really
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| Crocker got a signing on fee and nothing else, same with Hame.
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