When your staff/charges, even you're own children cannot openly say what they need to say to you or in your presence then ypu have a fairly serious problem.
I imagine it was about some of the players wanting to berate each other for the performance and hopefully if they had any respect for the club/fans vow that that never happens again.
Less likely is a revolution against Radford but not being able to say all those things whatever it is without Radford there is a concern.
Can it be enough to change the attitude of the players, short term maybe, long term I'm doubtful.
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I've banged on about the mental aspect of sport/rugby but time and again get scoffed at. This game and indeed the last two to a lesser extent show how important the development of people (players) to cope with situations/use strategies to overcome and maintain your level of performance are massively important and.continue to be ignored/underestimated.

Seen more determined defence from student teams full of ringers on a Wednesday afternoon. Shocking.

Well given the conflicting stories from Ellis and Radford I'd expect something out of the club today. What a shambles. Feel for the fans who took 4 hours plus to get home. Horrendous evening.

Embarrassing that the coach let the players have a post match meeting. He should have been in there bollocking them.

His demeanour suggests that his heart isn't in it anymore.

Ah, for the days of a Hutchie rumour of a 2pm press conference

Not sure I've ever seen a player get just 3/10 in the Hull Daily Mail's match ratings but that's what Marc Sneyd got in today's paper.

A little generous perhaps.

I said this season was all about Sneyd. That was overstating it obviously but halves again a massive issue.

Quite frankly I'm still absolutely speechless, if the game was atrocious then the journey home was horrendous! this explains a bit I guess! www.hulldailymail.co.uk/8203-Hul ... story.html

Quite frankly I'm still absolutely speechless, if the game was atrocious then the journey home was horrendous! this explains a bit I guess! www.hulldailymail.co.uk/8203-Hul ... story.html

Why did the players kick Radford out the changing rooms he doesn't know seems a bit strange

Troll, troll, troll. Did you read Wilf's post!!!

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Quite frankly I'm still absolutely speechless, if the game was atrocious then the journey home was horrendous! this explains a bit I guess! www.hulldailymail.co.uk/8203-Hul ... story.html'" He's not exactly going to come out and say 'We didn't want that toothless git in the changing rooms because we've lost confidence in him' is he?

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Quite frankly I'm still absolutely speechless, if the game was atrocious then the journey home was horrendous! this explains a bit I guess! www.hulldailymail.co.uk/8203-Hul ... story.html'" He's not exactly going to come out and say 'We didn't want that toothless git in the changing rooms because we've lost confidence in him' is he?

Well i must have been at a different game to a hundred or so last night. I thought we were utter tripe and garbage, yet those other hundred must have watched us win, as they went running down to the front for pictures clapping back slapping and throwing their sweets at the players, what an utter joke. A performance like that deseved an empty stand for the team to turn to on the final hooter

Missed all that as we just got up turned our backs on the team and left. No applause no booing.

What did Ellis say? Article won't open without full screen ads taking it to an error page

Well that was certainly a strange one, even for Hull Fc.
Started like a train threatening to demolish all before us, the disallowed tries seemed to un-nerve us and from that point onwards we very quickly lost our bearings ending up a very well beaten side indeed.

Just as I wasn't convinced after the Catalan game that we hadn't suddenly turned into serious challengers for the big prizes, so I'm not as equally convinced that we are nowhere near as bad as last night seemed to suggest.

We are still, unfortunately, nothing more than a mid table side as we have been for a number of years now. A mid table side who are capable of good days, bad days, indifferent days and all points inbetween. Last night was one of the bad ones. It will be counterbalanced at some point by a good one. The end result come August will probably be our usual 7th/8th spot which, realistically, I think is where most of us expected to be.

I don't profess to know the answers to this seemingly never ending circle of good/bad/indifferent/ad nauseaum, but there are deeper issues at play here that merely changing the head coach will only have a superficial effect on. There are long standing problems with regard to attitude and culture, possibly going back years, which remain at the root cause of our inability to maximise the potential of the club.

In the immediate short term, we once again find ourselves approaching a 3 game run around Easter time which may possibly define 2016 for Hull Fc. 3 wins on the bounce and the picture will look a good deal healthier. 1 from 3 however will leave us with a lot of work to do to even make the top 8 which will be beyond the pale for most of us on here.

All we can hope right now is that the players are determined to get the season back on track as soon as, which was hopefully the reasoning behind the bizarre goings on in the dressing room last night.

You would have thought we would be used to this drama/crisis/ecstasy by now wouldn't you

. Life's never dull in Fc land that's for sure. Keep the faith everyone, it's not as if we haven't been down this road before (too many times, eh)

Good at directly running towards touchlines. Said before this season started that it was make or break for him and I've seen nothing to suggest that he's the answer at half back. His kicking isn't even as good as some make out but his creative play is bordering on a joke. Abdull was also poor last night. Pryce can't cut it physically now but when he does interject into the game he's different class to any other half at Hull.

Brown takes the game to the opposition. He runs on both sides of the pitch, not just one side, and takes the ball to the line. Time after time. Not all of his passes are effective but most are. He steps before the line then passes back over his step or takes the other option. He kicks the ball high and makes it hard to catch. It's not world class but boy does it show just how poor our creative players are.

I thought snyed would come good but really started to doubt him now. It's one thing trying and playing poorly but he just seems happy to let Houghton give it to the forwards time and again. A good half wants to boss the show and show his skill set. Unless he seriously turns his form around I'd drop him for Dean or Wilson. At least they would bring enthusiasm and maybe ask some questions. How many times do you look back at a game and can't think of anything your scrum half has done.

So in short been a bang average bag of side for years so no harm if we carry on like that? Are you for real?

scrape a win against wakey, lose to the dobbins on good friday, giving them their first win, lose to wire and saints, goodbye radford i reckon

he has turned us into bradford bulls 2000 era, beat'em up the middle gameplan and nothing else

To all those on here who wanted Pryce dropped, do you still believe he should stay on the side-lines when fit?

I wish we had played you now instead of the 1st game. You looked a shambles, can't wait to play u at our!

should be an interesting game, we may have a new coach, may not, you may have had 20 points deducted and going through the motions waiting for our grudge game in the middle 8s lol

btw this whole reply is tic

I'm just amazed how poor you are now. I put a tenner on you for top 4 after 1sy two matches as your pack looked immense. Seems everyone's Sussed you out. .move the ball one out and shift your pack about, then hit you out wide. You seemed very leggy last night.

With regards to points deduction, not really bothered as its a board room issue. Am enjoying watching us play rugby at the mo and playing as a team instead of show ponies

Your sides gash pal, full of travel men who can't hold onto a lead.