If Radders is the answer, then the question is wrong IMHO.

No idea who we should get but to sack an unproven assistant (who's appointment lots thought was a bad move) and replace him with errrr, an unproven assistant would be just perfect

AP emailed Feka direct and said come to Hull

I know it's been a long day, but why are all "assistant coaches" unacceptable?

It's been mentioned on here for years, but certainly a lot in the last couple of days.

Radford, for example, has been coached or has coached for 25 years.

Isn't that long enough to understand what the job entails?

It's just a game of rugby, when all said and done.

I've not said they are, but the ing and moaning on here recently has been about Gentle only being an assistant before he joined us. Why, if this is bad, are some suggesting that Radford would be any different?

Genuine question. When did Last start his coaching career with us and what are his notable successes in our junior development? I seem to recall that there has been a fair bit of criticism about the falling off of apparently good young local talent in that intermediate period between junior and first team rugby? Apart from a great work ethic and absolute desire for the club to succeed what are his credentials to take us forward as an assistant coach?

I am not ambivalent in terms of Radford's ability as coach with regard to imparting skills, as our defence coach this season he has demonstrated he's a great teacher.

It's the rest of it, the man-management and diplomatic decision-making bit, I'm worried about. I like Radders - a lot - but I wish he was arriving as Head Coach with a few years' experience elsewhere under his belt.

They aren't.
But for us, we've promoted or imported unproven assistants for nearly 10 years now. We need someone with experience and a track record to put systems in place for success.


What has being coached got to do with coaching? All that means is he's turned up to training and follower instructions.
A coach has to put systems in place for development from top to bottom. Session plan for short, medium and long term. Recruit players. Just naming a few.

A top coach needs to come up with his own ideas.

Assistant coaches here are not willing to do the apprenticeship required to be a solid head coach. You only have to look at how long Bellamy did at Brisbane and McGuire at Melbourne to see what is required. Unfortunately over here society says you should demand things as quick as possible, whether you deserve or are ready for it. Radford will make a good, solid head coach one day but surely it's too soon.

Or the Australian coaches go home early and were left with no experienced assistants.

It's about having the required impartiality to make good decisions. In simple terms, if you get put in charge and asked to trim 2 jobs from your former workgroup, would you cut loose 2 of your lazy mates you've known for 6/7 years, or a couple of recent guys whom work their nuts off but nobody is particularly keen on yet? The people who are principled enough to do the former are a rare breed.

good points Carl.

not sure if Radders is that type,, but ive no hesisitation that Cooke would

Our problem this year has been our attack.

Who will coach the attack if Radford is head coach?

sean long and paul cooke. Training sessions to be held in crown car park

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tony and radders at hull ru ,ru winger on his way "welcome back tevita" (or leroy mcenzie)

I think its clear for two reasons Gentle will not be with us next season. Performances have been too under par too often and secondly Pearson will know that unless there is a change then season ticket sales will be down.

Having been a corporate guest at the Leeds v St's game on Friday, the difference is pace of the game and the basics being done correctly was immeasurable from what Hull have been serving up.

The speed the forwards ran the ball in to win the collision, the crispness of the passing. The willingness to try something different.

Why do those teams manage to do this yet we consistently cannot? Some of the Leeds player looked like they would have run at a brick wall for McDermott.

And herein lay the problem. Gentle will go and on balance probably rightly so, but the players have to be accountable for their attitude. I don't buy into players not playing for their coach. They are not professionals if thats the case. Lets face it there are a number of players who have been going through the motions more often than not.

I suppose the problem is, if they are contracted, getting rid of these players is not easy.

Gentle has a contract too. I think AP would struggle to justify his dismissal to a court or Employment Tribunal on the grounds of performance when we got to Wembley and finished 6th. He will need to be paid off. Unwanted players could be paid off too.

Doesnt paying players off count on the cap though? Although I could have just made that up.

Depends when its done, how its done, whats in the contract and just how much we have spent on t'cap

However it's done it'll be serious money, certainly when compared with Salford's restructuring (players out, not in).

One thing i will give AP, he very much more clued up on contracts than the 3 fools who we had before

Unwanted players, unwanted coach. Pearson is wealthy, but he hasn't got a bottomless pockets

I wish some of the clowns playing for us hadn't signed their contracts.

If they don't play a game they don't count on the cap. So we'd have to wait for the new season (1 nov?) and reach an agreement. If we fail to do that we'd have to pay their contract up in full.

It's not going to happen by the way, we'll sign 1 maybe 2 "projects" from the Wc.

www.hullfc.com/article/30882/clu ... ter-gentle

www.hullfc.com/article/30882/clu ... ter-gentle