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| Quote ="easthullwesty"Play him outside Watkins or Moon and he will score a hat load'"
I keep seeing this but Tom has scored more this season then both Hall & BJB playing outside these 2. Watkins & Moon are Leeds joint top tryscorers this season.
Plus looking at try-assists Watkins & Moon have 8 & 7 respectively, Crooks & Yeaman for us have 7 & 6 so not that much difference if you look purely at the stats.
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| Quote ="easthullwesty"He's a winger with no service. Play him outside Watkins or Moon and he will score a hat load. He has scored try's that neither charnley or hall can. Do you think either of them would have stopped Peter Fox?
Really will be a massive loss for us next year.'"
100% this. For a winger who gets no service he does remarkably well. Will be a great loss to us.
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"I keep seeing this but Tom has scored more this season then both Hall & BJB playing outside these 2. Watkins & Moon are Leeds joint top tryscorers this season.
Plus looking at try-assists Watkins & Moon have 8 & 7 respectively, Crooks & Yeaman for us have 7 & 6 so not that much difference if you look purely at the stats.'"
Interesting is that.
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| Quote ="easthullwesty"He's a winger with no service. Play him outside Watkins or Moon and he will score a hat load. He has scored try's that neither charnley or hall can. Do you think either of them would have stopped Peter Fox?
[uReally will be a massive loss for us next year.[/u'"
How will he be a massive loss next year when he has been virtually absent all this year?
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| because next year youll have the opportunity to watch crookes!!
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| dont be suprised if we dont, he wont be here
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| Quote ="hull2524"dont be suprised if we dont, he wont be here'"
Could explain the lee smith rumour
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Charnley and Hall are head and shoulders above Briscoe and always have been.'"
Please don't put Charnley up alongside Hall, he's not there yet.
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| Quote ="number 6"Could explain the lee smith rumour'"
I'd be quite happy with Lee Smith. Was a very good player for the Rhinos.
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| Quote ="easthullwesty"I'd be quite happy with Lee Smith. Was a very good player for the Rhinos.'"
Key word right there.
"was".
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Quote ="Billy Batten"How will he be a massive loss next year when he has been virtually absent all this year?'"
Absent all year
Have you been watching us this year. Right from the get go we have played down Crooks and Lineham's wing this year. Last season was the opposite (probably because we played to Manu) We lost Ellis before a tackle in anger and proceeded to play down the the opposite channel. Not sure if this is because Holdsworth can only pass in one direction or because it was a deliberate ploy by Gentle. Either way Briscoe was starved of possession. I bet he thought he was playing Rugby Union during some games, he saw that little of the ball.
When he did see it it was usually as a result of a kick down field by the opposition, he ran it in hard and with passion.
I believe it was the tactics of Gentle that saw him ultimately looking elsewhere.
His tackles bust stat of 86 for the season suggests he was effective
288 carries of which 95 were from dummy half shows he was looking for work. Along with 23 off loads
2624 metres carried at 9.1 metres av per carry.
19 clean breaks.
His stats show what a great player he is and what he has done this season. Compare to Crooks and Lineham who have had fantastic seasons and you will see how good he has been.
To see where I got these from look here www.superleague.co.uk/stats/player_stats
Tom will be a massive loss for us. He can create out of nothing and will rarely let you down. He does make the odd error with an average of 1 per match almost, but that can be said across the board.
I must admit that I generally do not go on stats, but given how some have reacted to Tom all season I was curious to know the truth as I don't see him as being that bad. As I say I strongly believe it was PG's tactics that worked against him along with DJ's limitations and Ellis being out for far too long.
He will be badly missed.
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Quote ="Billy Batten"How will he be a massive loss next year when he has been virtually absent all this year?'"
Absent all year
Have you been watching us this year. Right from the get go we have played down Crooks and Lineham's wing this year. Last season was the opposite (probably because we played to Manu) We lost Ellis before a tackle in anger and proceeded to play down the the opposite channel. Not sure if this is because Holdsworth can only pass in one direction or because it was a deliberate ploy by Gentle. Either way Briscoe was starved of possession. I bet he thought he was playing Rugby Union during some games, he saw that little of the ball.
When he did see it it was usually as a result of a kick down field by the opposition, he ran it in hard and with passion.
I believe it was the tactics of Gentle that saw him ultimately looking elsewhere.
His tackles bust stat of 86 for the season suggests he was effective
288 carries of which 95 were from dummy half shows he was looking for work. Along with 23 off loads
2624 metres carried at 9.1 metres av per carry.
19 clean breaks.
His stats show what a great player he is and what he has done this season. Compare to Crooks and Lineham who have had fantastic seasons and you will see how good he has been.
To see where I got these from look here www.superleague.co.uk/stats/player_stats
Tom will be a massive loss for us. He can create out of nothing and will rarely let you down. He does make the odd error with an average of 1 per match almost, but that can be said across the board.
I must admit that I generally do not go on stats, but given how some have reacted to Tom all season I was curious to know the truth as I don't see him as being that bad. As I say I strongly believe it was PG's tactics that worked against him along with DJ's limitations and Ellis being out for far too long.
He will be badly missed.
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| Quote ="number 6"Could explain the lee smith rumour'"
Please NO !!!
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| Seconded, Smith is awful - I was disappointed when the dobbins missed out on him a couple of years ago.
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| Where is lee smiths prefered position? because he couldnt possibly be better then horne or whitting, as half back or three quarter cover, a waste of salary imo if rumours are true.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Where is lee smiths prefered position? because he couldnt possibly be better then horne or whitting, as half back or three quarter cover, a waste of salary imo if rumours are true.'"
Played mainly centre at wakey, only covered hal bk when tim smith cleared of
Won 2 GF with leeds at fb getting the m.o.m award in 1
Started off as a winger at leeds and is a good goalkicker
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| Quote ="number 6"Played mainly centre at wakey, only covered hal bk when tim smith cleared of
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Started off as a winger at leeds and is a good goalkicker'"
Could be quite good then, but will he want to sit in the stands waiting for his chance? or do you see him starting regular?
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Could be quite good then, but will he want to sit in the stands waiting for his chance? or do you see him starting regular?'"
If crookes goes and biggs is raw or doesnt sign, wing for me
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| Quote ="number 6"Played mainly centre at wakey, only covered hal bk when tim smith cleared of
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Started off as a winger at leeds and is a good goalkicker'"
He was outstanding in that MOTM winning grand final for L**ds . The only players I'd take from Wakey now would be Kirmond & Collis.
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| Just out of interest where would you rank Tom Briscoe in wingers that have played for Hull FC?
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| Quote ="Freddie Miller."Just out of interest where would you rank Tom Briscoe in wingers that have played for Hull FC?'"
3rd for me.
1 Paul Eastwood.
2 Tevita Vaikona.
3 Tom Briscoe.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"3rd for me.
1 Paul Eastwood.
2 Tevita Vaikona.
3 Tom Briscoe.'"
You are kidding, surely.....
Briscoe is never the 3rd best winger we've ever had...
He's good but he's not amazing. He still has some major flaws in his game, which I think Leeds will improve, but he's still not a world class winger.
And while were on it, I won't support his return either. He'll be boo'd like every other opposition player and every player that, like Tom, left us under a web of lies and deceit..
Good riddance to a player whose heart wasn't in it for 2 years.
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| i liked best and blacklock and several others but only did short stints and tbf briscoe hardly missed any games from breaking into the 1st team i rate him, i think leeds have got a good player, look at it this way theyve got Hall, BJB, some good youth players briscoes brother and theyve give him a 5 year deal.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"3rd for me.
1 Paul Eastwood.
2 Tevita Vaikona.
3 Tom Briscoe.'"
Didn't Vaikona play centre at Hull. I think he moved to the wing when he went to Bradford
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| think you are right so briscoe is my 2nd, when i first started going to boulevard Neil Turner was on 1 wing he was a good player i wonder what type of players them lads would have been if they was not part-time?
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"You are kidding, surely.....
Briscoe is never the 3rd best winger we've ever had...
He's good but he's not amazing. He still has some major flaws in his game, which I think Leeds will improve, but he's still not a world class winger.
And while were on it, I won't support his return either. He'll be boo'd like every other opposition player and every player that, like Tom, left us under a web of lies and deceit..
Good riddance to a player whose heart wasn't in it for 2 years.'"
If you think his heart hasn't been in hull for 2 years you have been watching the wrong player. Despite not getting a pass for the last 2 years, his effort and attitude has been outstanding. One of our hardest working players, you will see how much we miss his runs out if our own half next year.
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