Defending his players from what? Fans expressing their honest (and let's face it, accurate) opinion of their team? He should be apologising to them, not criticising them FFS.



If it helps to get rid of Agar then yes, it is going to help.

Just a quick thanks to all the fans who came up to us on Friday night, much appreciated and walking back from the game lots of friendly fans too, apart from the ones blaming us for keeping Agar in a job!!

You'd think he might realise that wouldn't you?

We happened to see Sam Moa after the Celtic game and he was saying how fantastic the black and white fans were and he could not wait for the derby. He admitted that he thought that the team left it a little late to win the game but said the fans were great and he couldn't see himself playing for any other team. Maybe Rich Agar should listen to his squad and stop slagging the fans off who pay good money to see a team that is totally crap at the moment. I am dreading this weeks derby cos if Hull play like they have been doing we are going to get slaughtered and wont the dobbins fans like that.

Not at all,their concern for our plight will be overwhelming.

Are we still on about this?

How has Agar still got a job?! I'm sure he's trying to get sacked.

If I had a bad two years in the office, I'd be out of a job. That's worse than being booed.

Not read much of the thread but for Agar to criticise the fans for openly voicing their disaproval of the players Performance/Commitment to the game stinks especially as just a week earlier he did exactly the same thing on the radio.

At the end of the day Agar should be more concerned with the lack of desire his team started with and played with for 70 minutes especially after all the supposed tough talking the team did all weak after the Cas game.
Questions need to be asked what the feck is going on because if thats the responce to the coaches call for a significant improvement then we are really in serious trouble.

Fact is Agar seems to have no motivational qualities and that is evident in his interviews. Its time he stopped hiding behind excuse after excuse about how badly done to they are etc etc and stop blaming others for his own failiings and be honest and admit he is simply not up to the task.

Turning on the fans is a sign of a very desperate man, he could have simply said that he understood the fans frustrations etc etc

Bloody hell, you did well to walk all that way back home in less than three days!

Are you sure it's because you're their boss that they hate you? I don't think you have to be the enemy to be a boss - it's cetainly not my approach anyway.

I haven't said he was right to say what he said - I have merely said that it is being blown out of proportion, as is so often the case with sensationalist headlines.

So the fact that Agar will be "getting rid of the deadwood" at the end of this season matches your own approach, but you'd still get rid of him?

This is what I believe.

I think that, ironically, the booing probably spurred the team on to show us what they are capable of.

They don't hate me really, they just begrudge doing what I tell them at times. They're just happy I keep paying their wages every month right now.

So because he is capable of getting rid of some underperforming players we should ignore the rest of his failings?

No - just that he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

For example, on Friday he picked the team, apart from Whiting at 13, that many have been calling for but he still didn't get it right. I heard someone near me at the ground say "he was forced into that selection by injuries". But when he raises injuries as being a mitigating circumstance, that's just an excuse.... etc... etc... etc

He damned because he is shoite!

D'oh - well, why didn't you say that in the first place? It would have saved me all this time.

I've been saying it since he was appointed, like many I gave him the benefit of the doubt, but he has done nothing to change my opinion, he has no motivational skill whatsoever, he is naieve in his team selection and rotation, there is no evidence of a plan "a", let alone a "b","c" or "d", to then come out and criticise the very people that pay his wages merely underlines his inability.

Once he is finished at FC

I can't see him getting a head coach job in SL ever again.

Bugger - I'd finiished then but you've raised the "criticise the fans" thing again

which I don't think he did. I think he was making an ill-advised observation that the reaction didn't help.

He picked the team but the fact is he didn't coach and motivate them effectively did he?

Well he will be here next season and what if we do well and are competing near the top of SL? He could then get an extension.

So if James Rule came out with an ill-advised observation that Agar was not performing as was expected of him, results were not good enough, and his relationship with the fans was not helping, would you not say that those were all criticisms? As I've said before, observation and criticism are not mutually exclusive. In actual fact they are strongly linked, as is the case with Agar's comments.

You may well be right that there has been an overreaction, but to entirely dismiss it and say he hasn't criticised the fans is just outright denial IMO.

Exactly. And the fact that it has been noted that most on here named a similar lineup as what they'd like to see shows that most with a half-decent knowledge of the game can pick a fairly good team. What makes a coach is what he does with that team, through tactics, motivation, and an ability to adapt to the gameand it's circumstances as it unfolds.

But did Agar fail to complete the 7 out of the 9 sets?

And when they did start completing sets (in line with his tactics) did they score or not?