Got to say that I am not overly excited by this appointment. I feel that it is an indication that the board is doing things on the cheap, yet again. That said I will give Agar and the team my full support and wish them every success.


I suppose we will never know if Hull sounded out Folkes for the vacant job, but either way I feel that it is an opportunity missed. Agar has bags of potential, and every coach needs to be given a chance at some point, but with Folkes we would have had a tried and tested coach. If he comes over to the super league at some point I believe that he will be one of the most experienced coaches to every come to the league. And I think that is what we need right now. It is not every day a top coach with bags of experience comes on the market and I really think that we have missed the boat on this one.

I am also surprised people are happy just because the players like Agar. If I was on the board the thought of who the players may or may not like would not cross my mind. The players are obviously going to say they like him as it is a case of better the devil you know.

This is not a rant about Agar, as I do believe that he has the potential and will hopefully deliver the goods. But I do think that the board has yet again been short sighted with this appointment.

Here’s hoping that I am proved wrong and the board have made the right appointment.

I think the very fact that he has familiarity with the players will encourage him to shake things up and try different things, and the players will trust him with his new ideas and join him in hopefully successfully implementing them. The players don't have to take time to build up a rapport with Agar, and vice versa, so the familairity issue is not necessarily a bad thing.

Feel a little unsure about this tbh.

Positives for Agar is he's young, well thought of by most fans and players and deserves his chance.

Downsides are that I wonder if he has the ability to take us the top when hes been assistant to a very poor side. I also wanted someone who came in to lay the law down to Kath and say its this way or no way and im not sure whether Richard will do that. But I could be massively wrong so he'll get my full backing.

So congratulations Richard and lets hope you can take us back to the top.

Not how I see it at all. The fact he will have "friends" within the team may cloud his decisions when it comes to who to play and how play them or even who to get rid of, ie Yeamo moved straight back to the left, was that his decision or did Yeamo ask to move back and Agar let him? Not saying that is the case but a Head coach should have a certain distance between himself and the players so they know who is boss and it may be difficult for Agar to stamp his authority on the players after being the assistant. Just my opinion of course and not saying that is is the case but it could be a potential problem IMO.

That to me is one of the reason he could make a good coach, players have favoured positions and play better usually in that favoured position. Wingers and centres are usually comfortable at either side of the pitch so if a player has expressed a favoured side to the coach surely its worth playing them there for a couple of matches to see if his game improves.

I doubt Agar has done it just to appease the player but to try and get the best out of him.

Personally I think the side has had a better balance with Yeamo on the right, and it appears to me that he can only pass right which is why he never gives it to Raynor.

On the other hand, moving Hall to the left had given our most dangerous winger - Raynor - more and better quality service than he's had since joining the club. Moving Yeaman back was a backward step IMO.

Thats what coaches are paid for to make the big decisions and the little decisions. Only time will tell if they are right or wrong.

I have serious concerns about Agar and Last at the helm of the team, is anyone else concerned or is it just me being paranoid? I'm not knocking either person here i just feel there is a distinct lack of experience (at the top level).

Maybe he has the respect of the players and will get the best from them and as professionals they should accept he is now the head coach.

The reason he has been given the job could be that in his meeting with the board he has outlined his plans for the future and is indeed prepared to be totally objective in his decisions regardless of how tough they maybe?

The above could be the reason he has been given the job, who knows.

All I know is that things can only get better.

Richard Agar is a young British Coach who has been groomed by Hull FC for this moment.
Why are people surprised ? When Kear went, Agar was not ready .
He now obviously feels he is ready. If an Aussie had come in he may of wanted Agar out . Hull must think highly of him.
I for one am pleased we have chosen the British option and not gone for the "panic" Big name Aussie. People moan and groan about GB being unable to compete internationally. They never will if the Brits are not given a chance . This is also what the Franchise era is about . Young British players and Coaches entering into the fray , instead of highly paid Aussies or New Zealanders milking Clubs for their retirement fund.
Hopefully Hetherington will give Agar the Finances to bolster his squad for 2009 .
On Sunday in defeat we played more Rugby than we had done all season. His style must differ from Sharp`s.
With R.Horne , Dykes , Motu , Whiting , King and Berrigan on the field we would have beaten Saints.
THE KING IS DEAD , LONG LIVE KING RICHARD !

And pray tell how many times has Hall passed to Raynor this season? Most of Raynors tries come from kicks because of our inabilty to bring the backs into the game.

So far Agar has done little wrong for me as he has had little time to and it made a change to hear the coach of our team pin point the areas he thought we were weak in and actually sound like he is capable of addressing these etc instead of the usual "we were patchy", "got babies playing" etc no disrespect to Sharp.

always makes me laugh does that

yes thats my thoughts too

I agree to some extent and understand what you are saying. But Folkes is a proven coach with bags of experience. He would not have been a panic appointment and would have been able to develop the local lads within our squad. This could potentially had a positive knock on effect for England.

Don't forget, he would not be coming here to make a name for himself and then bugger off, he has been there, done it and got the t-shirt.

No we didn't.

Ahh the anti Aussie/ NZ bit - well if he's "up and coming" and "British" he must be right for the job! Silly me i must bare that in mind next time i do some external recruiting!

I'm normally too late to a thread to post it, so I thought I'd give it a try.

As it happens, there was both.

cant see that working but would let radders do the reserves

or even Horne if the worst came to the worst

maybe this is why Andy Mightys name is in the fram to join the club

does anyone think this actually show's a lack of ambition (just a question so dont shoot me down )

Many more times than Yeaman.

HTH

Correct me if I am wrong,didnt he pass to Raynor for his last minute try against the Saints?