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| westerman has had an injury disrupted season so he was hardly likely to be as good as last year. Not sure our current structure suits his style of play but you can't criticise his application in games. Puts in plenty of effort and does a good shift in defense every time he plays. Like all of our back rowers he struggles with fatigue because the coach insists on overplaying him week in, week out and hopefully this will be addressed next year when we will likely have a couple of back row options on the bench.
I for one hope westerman stays but he needs to grow up and knuckle down otherwise he'll be another in a long line of players who have never reached their potential
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| totally agree
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| Rumour has it Rangi Chase is now available on a free. Hypothetically (I think we've spent up the cap already) would we want him? Trouble causer who's inconsistent, but at the same time it's excitement and flair that we lack, and no one else in the league offers what he does when he's in the mood and you'd think he'd have a point to prove after this Salford fiasco.
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| It pains me to say it... But a big fat no from me
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| Quote ="UllFC"Rumour has it Rangi Chase is now available on a free. Hypothetically (I think we've spent up the cap already) would we want him? Trouble causer who's inconsistent, but at the same time it's excitement and flair that we lack, and no one else in the league offers what he does when he's in the mood and you'd think he'd have a point to prove after this Salford fiasco.'"
No. Aside from his issues I think we need a more controlling general type half to complement Sneyd's more off the cuff style.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"No. Aside from his issues I think we need a more controlling general type half to complement Sneyd's more off the cuff style.'"
Sneyd's more off the cuff style?
Sneyd so far has been very run of the mill. He's disappointed rather than pleased in more games than not and off the cuff is not how I'd describe him. His odd moment of skill is currently outweighed by his poor play in my opinion.
Rarely takes line on, hit and miss kicking game and some of his passes have big red crosses on them and often takes the wrong pass option.
For me Chase if he can be controlled is a must.
He's unpredictable exciting and has proven he can win games on his own. Yes he has issues but surely he must know he's now in the last chance saloon and I think he'd compliment our forwards.
If financially viable I'd snap him up.
I'd also if possible consider cutting Pryce lose from his playing contract to replace him with Chase.
Pryce with his experience would be ideal on the coaching staff and would bring far more than currently offered.
All conjecture of course and simply my view.
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| Quote ="Battering Ram"Sneyd's more off the cuff style?
Sneyd so far has been very run of the mill. He's disappointed rather than pleased in more games than not and off the cuff is not how I'd describe him. His odd moment of skill is currently outweighed by his poor play in my opinion.
Rarely takes line on, hit and miss kicking game and some of his passes have big red crosses on them and often takes the wrong pass option.
For me Chase if he can be controlled is a must.
He's unpredictable exciting and has proven he can win games on his own. Yes he has issues but surely he must know he's now in the last chance saloon and I think he'd compliment our forwards.
If financially viable I'd snap him up.
I'd also if possible consider cutting Pryce lose from his playing contract to replace him with Chase.
Pryce with his experience would be ideal on the coaching staff and would bring far more than currently offered.
All conjecture of course and simply my view.'"
Salary would be the problem with Chase
Apart from that straight swap for Westerman
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| chase is a car crash. We should go nowhere near him
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| Quote ="Battering Ram"Sneyd's more off the cuff style?
Sneyd so far has been very run of the mill. He's disappointed rather than pleased in more games than not and off the cuff is not how I'd describe him. His odd moment of skill is currently outweighed by his poor play in my opinion.
Rarely takes line on, hit and miss kicking game and some of his passes have big red crosses on them and often takes the wrong pass option.
For me Chase if he can be controlled is a must.
He's unpredictable exciting and has proven he can win games on his own. Yes he has issues but surely he must know he's now in the last chance saloon and I think he'd compliment our forwards.
If financially viable I'd snap him up.
I'd also if possible consider cutting Pryce lose from his playing contract to replace him with Chase.
Pryce with his experience would be ideal on the coaching staff and would bring far more than currently offered.
All conjecture of course and simply my view.'"
IMO Sneyd is more of an individualist player than one who controls a game through measured long kicking and structured plays. We are more in need of a Brough than a Chase IMO.
"My style is off-the-cuff rugby, I enjoy not having too much of a structure when play breaks down that's what I enjoy," added Sneyd.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"IMO Sneyd is more of an individualist player than one who controls a game through measured long kicking and structured plays. We are more in need of a Brough than a Chase IMO.
"My style is off-the-cuff rugby, I enjoy not having too much of a structure when play breaks down that's what I enjoy," added Sneyd.'"
Not convinced by Sneyd, another on the list of reasonable players we have who don't change a game. That said I don't think ditching yet another halfback at high cost is the answer at the moment either, I think we have to stick with what we've got.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Not convinced by Sneyd, another on the list of reasonable players we have who don't change a game. That said I don't think ditching yet another halfback at high cost is the answer at the moment either, I think we have to stick with what we've got.'"
Wouldn't ditch him either. Just saying our need is more Brough than Chase.
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| I like Sneyd and think he is has a pretty good first season, not everything he does comes off, but he tries to creates things, hopefully with better players around him next year he will be mroe consistent.
Without him this year we wouldn't have finished in the top 8, as there were a few games that he helped us win that we would have lost the previous year.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I like Sneyd and think he is has a pretty good first season, not everything he does comes off, but he tries to creates things, hopefully with better players around him next year he will be mroe consistent.
Without him this year we wouldn't have finished in the top 8, as there were a few games that he helped us win that we would have lost the previous year.'"
Well said Dave. No player is brilliant all of the time.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Wouldn't ditch him either. Just saying our need is more Brough than Chase.'"
Chase with ball in hand is dynamite... pure box-office.
Without the ball... he's a liability....
Sneyd needs coaching - one to one mentoring. His scanning/vision needs work as does his decision making.
Same applies to Houghton as well -IMO.
We need someone like a ..Sheridan,Deacon,Harris,Cooke,Webster, Pryce or a player of that ilk, as a member of the coaching team,to improve these players...
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| Wouldn't touch Chase with the proverbial,vastly overrated,thug,cheap shot merchant and disruptive.What speaks volumes for me is that when the top teams needed half backs,no one was interested in him.
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| Quote ="Battering Ram"Sneyd's more off the cuff style?
Sneyd so far has been very run of the mill. He's disappointed rather than pleased in more games than not and off the cuff is not how I'd describe him. His odd moment of skill is currently outweighed by his poor play in my opinion.
Rarely takes line on, hit and miss kicking game and some of his passes have big red crosses on them and often takes the wrong pass option.
For me Chase if he can be controlled is a must.
He's unpredictable exciting and has proven he can win games on his own. Yes he has issues but surely he must know he's now in the last chance saloon and I think he'd compliment our forwards.
If financially viable I'd snap him up.
I'd also if possible consider cutting Pryce lose from his playing contract to replace him with Chase.
Pryce with his experience would be ideal on the coaching staff and would bring far more than currently offered.
All conjecture of course and simply my view.'"
Snead is far from run of the mill and is a bloody big improvement on the dross we have had at 7 over the years.
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| Sneyd needs to improve his long field kicking by 100% IMHO. The inconsistency of the quality of his kicks downfield mirror the overall inconsistency in his game. Surprisingly the more time he has to make a decision (kicking or otherwise) the worse the decision seems to be. Has shown enough in his good games that he has what it takes - but needs to do it regularly.
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| Snyed has a wow of a season at Cas and we go for him and pay a fee,he comes to a new inviroment,with another new halfback and people expect him to carry on as he did at Cas,he hasn't hit the heights of his Cas form but he has had a fairly good debut season and will get better,he has missed Ellis IMO as they was beginning to get a good understanding going.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I like Sneyd and think he is has a pretty good first season, not everything he does comes off, but he tries to creates things, hopefully with better players around him next year he will be mroe consistent.
Without him this year we wouldn't have finished in the top 8, as there were a few games that he helped us win that we would have lost the previous year.'"
I also like Sneyd.Bit disappointed with his place kicking out wide but he does work hard for the team.
needs to take the line on a bit more and improve his long kicking game.we dont seem to have anyone that can kick a 40 20.
Its a great tactic and should be used a lot more.
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| Quote ="bonaire"I also like Sneyd.Bit disappointed with his place kicking out wide but he does work hard for the team.
needs to take the line on a bit more and improve his long kicking game.we dont seem to have anyone that can kick a 40 20.
Its a great tactic and should be used a lot more.'"
Agree with all that.
Hopefully he will continue to improve and play a big part next year.
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| Sneyd is also 5th in try assists too. Considering we finished 10th in tries I think that's a pretty good effort.
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| agree with last 3 posts, think he can kick on next year
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| Sneyd is a mercurial player. At times he has shown flashes of magic but all to often he lets himself down with his decision making. He also needs to improve his long kicking game and is a weak defender. Irrespective of that he has got loads of talent and I expect big things from him next season
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Sneyd is a mercurial player. At times he has shown flashes of magic but all to often he lets himself down with his decision making. He also needs to improve his long kicking game and is a weak defender. Irrespective of that he has got loads of talent and I expect big things from him next season'"
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| Quote ="*1865*"Sneyd is also 5th in try assists too. Considering we finished 10th in tries I think that's a pretty good effort.'"
He had the hands of a Rugby Union player most of the season
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