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| Quote ="PAUL M"Once our recruitment is concluded then we should judge our chances.'"
Exactly. At the moment we're just second-guessing.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Once our recruitment is concluded then we should judge our chances.'"
How do you know its not already concluded??
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"How do you know its not already concluded??'"
Possibly because Agar has said in print that he's looking to sign more players?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Possibly because Agar has said in print that he's looking to sign more players?'"
Not like you to beleive everything you read in the press Kosh.
Are things that desperate??
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Not like you to beleive everything you read in the press Kosh.
Are things that desperate??
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It's hardly an implausible statement. We may or may not end up signing someone but why would I assume that we're not even looking? I'd have to be some kind of conspiracy nut.
Why would things be desperate BTW? I never expected much in the way of signings for next year - and I said as much once we'd finished recruiting for this season.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"How do you know its not already concluded??'"
There will be more players coming in 2 possibly 3.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Once our recruitment is concluded then we should judge our chances.'"
But where's the fun in that?
TBF, looking at who's available it would take some miracle signing to alter my view of our chances for next year.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"But where's the fun in that?
TBF, looking at who's available it would take some miracle signing to alter my view of our chances for next year.'"
It won't be a miracle signing but a fullback, halfback and a prop would strengthen us and give us more options to cover the halves in terms of injuries and form.
This season was never going to be a big one in terms of new players, next year will be different and I hear our targets have already begun talking to us.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"It won't be a miracle signing but a fullback, halfback and a prop would strengthen us and give us more options to cover the halves in terms of injuries and form.
This season was never going to be a big one in terms of new players, next year will be different and I hear our targets have already begun talking to us.'"
To change our style of play the fullback, halfback and prop better all be International standard.
This season always had the potential to be a big one imo based on our signings. I've now lost confidence after a number of seasons that next year will be anything different.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"But where's the fun in that?
TBF, looking at who's available it would take some miracle signing to alter my view of our chances for next year.'"
Really? I thought you reckoned our squad was stop two material and it was only Agar holding us back?
TBH if we just got better cover for HB and FB that would improve our chances considerably. And we don't need miracle signings there for them to be better than our current options.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"It won't be a miracle signing but a fullback, halfback and a prop would strengthen us and give us more options to cover the halves in terms of injuries and form.
This season was never going to be a big one in terms of new players, next year will be different and I hear our targets have already begun talking to us.'"
Surely whether they strengthen us or not, would be dependent on who they are wouldn't it ?
Ewan Dowes and and no-mark Aussie utility back who nobody wants, for instance, wouldn't strengthen us at all IMO.
I agree that with the lack of quality players now available and the weaknesses in our squad, Agar is going to have to pull off a couple of very good signings which doesn't look at all possible. In those circumstances, it is fair to question how competitive we can be next season.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Really? I thought you reckoned our squad was stop two material and it was only Agar holding us back?
TBH if we just got better cover for HB and FB that would improve our chances considerably. And we don't need miracle signings there for them to be better than our current options.'"
Agar is holding us back, thats why we need miracle signings to compensate for out poor coach. Average signings would do well under a new coach.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"To change our style of play the fullback, halfback and prop better all be International standard.
This season always had the potential to be a big one imo based on our signings. I've now lost confidence after a number of seasons that next year will be anything different.'"
Having a proper 6/7 playing every week will be a huge improvement.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Having a proper 6/7 playing every week will be a huge improvement.'"
But the other players outside of them will still not be giving them options or running dummy runs etc. Our coach doesnt have a clue.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Having a proper 6/7 playing every week will be a huge improvement.'"
Going into a season with a 6 AND a 7 that don't spend a lot of time injured would have been a huge improvement. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that we found ourselves with no half-backs last season should it ?
Yes it turned out to be in the extreme but we all knew the score and questioned our back-up options WHEN it happened. I remember being told by Agar that it wasn't a problem because we had a number of options.
That number turned out to be "0" and we only had ourselves to blame.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"But the other players outside of them will still not be giving them options or running dummy runs etc. Our coach doesnt have a clue.'"
Yet he challenged for the top four all season and finished about Justin Morgan who people have down as a worldbeater.
I don't always understand this coaching debate.
Maguire was unproven, his plus point was he had worked under arguably the best coach around in Bellamy but he was a gamble.
Brown had a great squad at St George and constantly failed to deliver.
If we had sined either of those fans would not have been happy as they would not have appeared as a top class coach at the point of signing them.
The there are the likes of Matterson, Rea, Sharp and Potter.
It's not a magic wand and is Agar was not here I would love to know who people would want and why.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Going into a season with a 6 AND a 7 that don't spend a lot of time injured would have been a huge improvement. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that we found ourselves with no half-backs last season should it ?
Yes it turned out to be in the extreme but we all knew the score and questioned our back-up options WHEN it happened. I remember being told by Agar that it wasn't a problem because we had a number of options.
=#0080FFThat number turned out to be "0" and we only had ourselves to blame.'"
Actually that's not true. We did have a number of options - sadly they all turned out to be inadequate.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Yet he challenged for the top four all season and finished about Justin Morgan who people have down as a worldbeater.
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The issue there for me is that FC have a far greater squad on paper than Rovers. (as i said the other day tongue in cheek)
If Agar could get 110% out of us like Morgs gets out of Rovers we'd be top 2 imo.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"There will be more players coming in 2 possibly 3.'"
You've been saying that for weeks if not months.
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"I dont think we'll make the 8 atm.'"
Didn't you say the same last season?
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"You've been saying that for weeks if not months.'"
Has next season started already?
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"You've been saying that for weeks if not months.'"
I said we were in for Fielden, we missed out. We offered money for Myler, it never happened. We will bring in 2/ players of that I am quite sure, however what is the rush?
Also you said 'Radford is a Robin' and 'Dowes is a Bull'. Apparently not!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Having a proper 6/7 playing every week will be a huge improvement.'"
agree!!! also washy or whiting (or westerman ) at 13 if we are to move fitz to second row.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"agree!!! also washy or whiting (or westerman
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I think Tansey at fullback, two halves from Horne/Long/new signing plus Whiting/Washy at 13 would offer plenty of creativity and with Berro in the centres and Sharp/Briscoe on the wing we have plenty of strike options. What we do need is our forwards to make better runs and push more.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Did expro tell you that?'"
Of course not...... if he had have done, why would i put it on here and make myself look stupid aswell??
However, i happen to know for a fact that i is a vastly reduced salary in one of those player's case and fully expect the same with the other.... Money isn't the issue, the issue was the length of the contract!!
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