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| Quote ="oooh Gravy!"If crooks and lineham go, it really will be the final straw for me. I won't even consider getting another pass unless there are some exceptional replacements signed.'"
To be honest, if they go I don't care who we sign. If we're letting two of our best players go and sticking with Radford then I'm done.
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| Crooks has been sacked.
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| Quote ="dayvoz"Crooks has been sacked.'"
What for ?
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| Iam guessing lineham and crooks we're in the gentle camp then and radders seems to not want anything and anybody that had a good word for gentle. Already we have seen the treatment McDonnell Miller Arundel pitts have been given even green who featured a lot under gentle yet has only played twice for us. Could easily add whiting to the list remember gentle saying he is one of the first names on the team sheet yet radders has used him less and less.I was one who got more and more disillusioned with gentle towards the back end of the season but I'd take gentle average performances to the crap we are watching now
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| looks like we will be 12th by twenty to five!
congratulations radford! you have taken this club so far back, manage to get rid of a dream team player, if rumours are true, made us a laughing stock of the league in the eyes of every other team! re-signed a poor winger who couldnt catch a cold friday night!
time for adam pearson to bin him or risk losing fans next season
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| Why was Lancaster playing for the academy if you were so hard up for players?
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Why was Lancaster playing for the academy if you were so hard up for players?'"
Because Radford's clueless? Other than that I have no answer.
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| Assuming Rardford is still in post on Monday morning we have the answer to the thread title. It seems that nothing short of relegation will be bad enough.
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| Quote ="wudmansir"Iam guessing lineham and crooks we're in the gentle camp then and radders seems to not want anything and anybody that had a good word for gentle. Already we have seen the treatment McDonnell Miller Arundel pitts have been given even green who featured a lot under gentle yet has only played twice for us. Could easily add whiting to the list remember gentle saying he is one of the first names on the team sheet yet radders has used him less and less.'"
This really wouldn't surprise me. Sadly.
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| crooks sacked? What for? disagreeing with radford? If you asked every supporter of the club if they'd rather keep crooks or radford I doubt there'd be many in the radford camp. He needs to go now
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"crooks sacked? What for? disagreeing with radford? If you asked every supporter of the club if they'd rather keep crooks or radford I doubt there'd be many in the radford camp. He needs to go now'"
We cannot go down, thats the only positive. And boy, is it a bad one.
Radford, do one.
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| I'm paying for next year's pass via Direct Debit. I intend writing to the club and asking them to cancel my application and refund any money I have paid. Its quite obvious that nobody at the club is listening to the supporters. That being the case they won't have many supporters to worry about.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I'm paying for next year's pass via Direct Debit. I intend writing to the club and asking them to cancel my application and refund any money I have paid. Its quite obvious that nobody at the club is listening to the supporters. That being the case they won't have many supporters to worry about.'"
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I'm paying for next year's pass via Direct Debit. I intend writing to the club and asking them to cancel my application and refund any money I have paid. Its quite obvious that nobody at the club is listening to the supporters. That being the case they won't have many supporters to worry about.'"
email pearson and tell him why
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| Quote ="deslawson"eusa_clap.gif'"
What's the applause for ? Will you not be renewing your kr pass seeing as your an amazing 3points above us and saying bye bye to the two players that are dragging you through most of your games ?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"email pearson and tell him why'"
What is his email address please?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Assuming Rardford is still in post on Monday morning we have the answer to the thread title. It seems that nothing short of relegation will be bad enough.'"
If Castleford open up on us on Thursday, live on TV, in front of a small home crowd, and those there get on Radford's back noisily, and he still doesn't get the push, then I make you right.
At the moment it's not too late. If he starts actually getting rid of Crooks, Lineham, Green, Whiting etc then he's starting to do lasting damage that will take time to recover from.
Big moment Thursday night.
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| Don't think I could have chosen a better season to come to Australia for
FWIW, I'm undecided on the whole Radford situation. I never wanted him as our coach in the first place, purely because I didn't think he was ready. This season has shown that he is way out of his depth, however I aren't going to 'bag" him for it. One thing he will show is a lot of heart for the club, which we've arguable missed for some time. That doesn't make him a good coach, and I'd rather a good coach than a likeable coach, but I genuinely believe he's trying all he can to make us a better team. It's not his fault that his best isn't good enough! We need a better coach to progress, however I think Pryce and Sneyd are what we've cried out for for years.
Radford wasn't and isn't the answer, same with some of our players, but I aren't going to get personal like some do on here. It's embarrassing.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"FWIW, I'm undecided on the whole Radford situation. I never wanted him as our coach in the first place, purely because I didn't think he was ready. This season has shown that he is way out of his depth, however I aren't going to 'bag" him for it. One thing he will show is a lot of heart for the club, which we've arguable missed for some time. That doesn't make him a good coach, and I'd rather a good coach than a likeable coach, but I genuinely believe he's trying all he can to make us a better team. It's not his fault that his best isn't good enough! We need a better coach to progress, however I think Pryce and Sneyd are what we've cried out for for years.'"
Like you I didn't want Radders to be our coach (in fact I didn't want us to get rid of Gentle) because I didn't think he would be ready and I'd say he's proven my fears to be correct this year. Maybe someday he'll be ready but after only two years as an assistant I knew he wouldn't be. The Hull FC job is a pressure cooker because rightly or wrongly we all have expectations. It is not a job for a novice and we're paying the price for that now and I'm not seeing any signs that it will all suddenly come good next year. Pryce and Sneyd are great signings in my eyes but we can't pin our hopes on these two. They will not magically transform the team. We need to improve other areas of the squad along with them. But most importantly, we need an experienced coach. Not another assistant looking to try their luck at a head job but someone that has actual head coach experience. I'd say the clubs been crying out for that almost as much as some half backs.
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| The first thing Pearson should have done was bring in a top level coach (Maybe his inexperience in rugby league was the reason for this). Saying that I don't believe Peter Gentle should have been sacked. He was certainly a man manager with a more the decent amount of brain power. I'm done waiting for success now, im 20 years old and got my first pass in 2006, after my step dad got me involved in rugby. That first season I was spoilt with the rugby we was playing. Since then its been the same boring brand until Gentle came in....
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| I tried that after last season and Adam said stick with us it will be better next year. i did and bought 3 passes & shirts.
This year he says everyone is trying their best i see it everyday.
Well if this is the best they can serve up god help us all.
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| For what it's worth, here's my two pennies worth.
Like most others I think Radford is currently out of his depth, and was promoted to Head Coach way too early in his career. Maybe the right time would've been to serve another 3/4 seasons as an assistant, then make the step up - but hindsight is a wonderful thing afterall. Whilst defensively we've been fairly good, in attack it's been very poor and his man-management skills apparently are lacking.
In roughly equal measures to the decision to appoint Radford, is the poor recruitment that we've seen under Pearson's tenure. Not every signing has been poor, and you can always expect the odd one not to work out, but we seem to have a big proportion of failed signings.
Just this year, we've had Pitts, McDonnell, Arundel, Crooks and Miller have had virtually no impact on our season whatsoever, and ultimately we have x amount of the cap not on the field. I think Radford does have a point when he mentioned our salary cap management, although that in no way excuses the performance at the weekend.
We also saw some decent, senior players leave at the end of 2013 (Tickle, O'Meley, Lynch, Briscoe, Holdsworth), and ineffectively replaced. The kicker situation was a farce, and we still don't have a halfback. Holdsworth wasn't great, but I reckon Radford would swap any of the current incumbents for him if he could.
The point I'm trying (probably badly) to make, is that Radford as our Head Coach is a problem and not working, but I think it's only a proportion of a much bigger problem that's festering within the club, ultimately at board level.
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| Quote ="Errlee Berd"The point I'm trying (probably badly) to make, is that Radford as our Head Coach is a problem and not working, but I think it's only a proportion of a much bigger problem that's festering within the club, ultimately at board level.'"
Agreed. Pearson's done great BTS with investing money into facilities and the like but there's certainly a lot to be desired on the playing side and appointments which is largely down to his lack of rugby knowledge.
Don't get me wrong, I think we should get rid of Radford as I don't think it's working out. But that isn't suddenly going to make everything all right. There are issues at the club that will still need to be fixed.
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| Quote ="Errlee Berd"The point I'm trying (probably badly) to make, is that Radford as our Head Coach is a problem and not working, but I think it's only a proportion of a much bigger problem that's festering within the club, ultimately at board level.'"
Just to point out there is no board at Hull, Adam owns the club 100%. To put most of the blame at his door is extremely unfair. He trusted an assistant coach (to the best team in the world) to recruit on his behalf and that's as safe a bet as you can get really. Gentle got the recruitment wrong but at the time of appointing him, I can't remember seeing a single objection on here to him? So to be fair to Adam, nobody could have foreseen and therefore predicted that his recruitment would be so poor.
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