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| Quote ="Chris28"Good call. Don't forget that when origin started down under it wasn't successful but now it's massive. We need that level of intensity to pick up the international game and generate some media interest. Done properly, it could be huge.'"
Nah, lets just try it once or twice and give it up.
IMO we need to give it the same hype and press if we were going to do origin again. Think we also need to create a free weekend and allow fans to travel to watch it, maybe wembley or old trafford.
Last ones we on school nights iir.
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| Quote ="Captain Dave"There were some cracking games against touring sides in the past.
As for the County games , at one point - probably nearer 30 years ago - they were seen by the players as part of the progression to full honours - but since that time their prestige declined.'"
The answer would be to select your full international team based on who plays in the county games and how well they play.
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| Quote ="BESTY"The answer would be to select your full international team based on who plays in the county games and how well they play.'"
Absolutely spot on! No-one playing in Australia should be picked either.
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| Quote ="BESTY"The answer would be to select your full international team based on who plays in the county games and how well they play.'"
But what about the lads from outside of Yorkshire and Lancashire? (or are we talking about 4 teams rather than 2 taking part?)
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| inthe first 10 minutes,i think that if that greedy selfish prat mcquire had passed to tommy brisco,when they were within 40 meters,tommy would have scored.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"But what about the lads from outside of Yorkshire and Lancashire? (or are we talking about 4 teams rather than 2 taking part?)'"
Split the country (GB) in two and which ever you played your original professional games in is the one you would represent.
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| Quote ="downtheante"Split the country (GB) in two and which ever you played your original professional games in is the one you would represent.'"
So, nobody from say, London, could ever play in the National side?
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| Quote ="Standee"So, nobody from say, London, could ever play in the National side?'"
I think you might have misread my post.
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| Quote ="downtheante"I think you might have misread my post.'"
People have been saying that to make Yorks v Lancs work it needs to form the basis of selection for the National side.
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| Quote ="Standee"So, nobody from say, London, could ever play in the National side?'"
I meant if you had an origin series between let's say East and West rather than Yorkshire and Lancashire
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| Quote ="downtheante"I meant if you had an origin series between let's say East and West rather than Yorkshire and Lancashire'"
Far to narrow a scope, why cut Lancashire out?
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| Quote ="Standee"Far to narrow a scope, why cut Lancashire out?'"
Your idea of missing Lancashire out.... hmmmm
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| Quote ="downtheante"Your idea of missing Lancashire out.... hmmmm'"
I am missing something, do you mean East v West in terms of:
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| Quote ="Standee"I am missing something, do you mean East v West in terms of:
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I mean East and West Britain: North & South won't work and Yorks v Lancs misses other teams than Quins potentially.
The problem with Hull is there are not enough players eligible to play for England (unless we exclude Rovers)
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| Quote ="Standee"I am missing something, do you mean East v West in terms of:
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I think when he said split the country in 2 he might have mean't England.
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| Quote ="BESTY"I think when he said split the country in 2 he might have mean't England.
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I think I might also be being a bit elitist. How do the Welsh and Scottish pick their teams if we're only picking English players from the origin players and yet I'm including Wales and Scotland in my map.
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| You could split it to four regions, and play two-legged semi final stage, one game played in each region, and a final. Maybe a third place playoff so each team gets three games. I'm not sure what the regions would be like , just for the sake of conversation:
Hull XIII (Hull FC & Rovers)
Yorkshire (Cas, Wakey, Leeds, Hudds, Bradford)
Lancashire (Wigan, Saints, Wire, Salford)
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| Quote ="downtheante"I think I might also be being a bit elitist. How do the Welsh and Scottish pick their teams if we're only picking English players from the origin players and yet I'm including Wales and Scotland in my map.'"
We've arrived at my point, between us.
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| Quote ="Dnats Ynnepeerht"You could split it to four regions, and play two-legged semi final stage, one game played in each region, and a final. Maybe a third place playoff so each team gets three games. I'm not sure what the regions would be like
, just for the sake of conversation:
Hull XIII (Hull FC & Rovers)
Yorkshire (Cas, Wakey, Leeds, Hudds, Bradford)
Lancashire (Wigan, Saints, Wire, Salford)
Expansion XIII (Quins, Crusaders
, Catalans)'"
I think that would involve too many players and lesson the quality/intensity that we need. i think a straight line down the country from the Yorks/Lancs border would suffice,it doesn't need to be an exact science.
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| Quote ="BESTY"I think that would involve too many players and lesson the quality/intensity that we need. i think a straight line down the country from the Yorks/Lancs border would suffice,it doesn't need to be an exact science.'"
Yeh, I think you're right, just trying to offer an alternative where no SL clubs are excluded, for instance if Crusaders were classed as Lancashire, their fans wouldn't be too enthusiastic towards a team called Lancashire, who are playing at Wigan with no Welshman in the team. However, Yorkshire vs Lancashire does have the name to be marketable, rather than 'East vs West' might not.
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| Quote ="Dnats Ynnepeerht"Yeh, I think you're right, just trying to offer an alternative where no SL clubs are excluded, for instance if Crusaders were classed as Lancashire, their fans wouldn't be too enthusiastic towards a team called Lancashire, who are playing at Wigan with no Welshman in the team. However, Yorkshire vs Lancashire does have the name to be marketable, rather than 'East vs West' might not.'"
Although East v West could also include Russia and the Lebanon
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| Quote ="Standee"We've arrived at my point, between us.
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aha - the plot thinnens
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| Quote ="downtheante"aha - the plot thinnens
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| Maybe a Lancs / Yorks /Cumbria tri county series would wrok and help the guys in cumbria show what they are about??? lot of lads playing is SL from cumbria
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"Maybe a Lancs / Yorks /Cumbria tri county series would wrok and help the guys in cumbria show what they are about??? lot of lads playing is SL from cumbria'"
Think if cumbria were involved it would need to also include a southern team including wales as a developing combination.
I would rather just see it left as yorks v lancashire. The Aussies dont see the need to widen it from NSW v Queensland.
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