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| Quote ="knocker norton"I did say COULD be a masterstroke on the basis that quality players become available once the season starts!
If we start the season and lose both half backs and Washy is gash at hooker then fair do's but we are still in a position to significantly stengthen where necessary on the back of Berro leaving.
I think we badly need another half back and if Berro had stayed then we could not have paid decent cash for one. As things stand we can probably bring in a decent 6 or 7 with his cash which I beleive is what Hull need as a priority.
If we signed for example Sammut or Chase who can play 1,6,7 or 9 do you agree it would be a good move?'"
Masterstroke makes it sound like an intentional strategy, if we get someone in we'll simply have made the best of a bad situation IMO. We do desperately need a halfback, it's obvious to anyone with a passing interest in RL. I don't think losing Berrigan to get one would ever be a good move in my eyes, but it is one of the few options we seem to have, I admit that. It's more salvaging something from the situation than a positive forward move.
If we paid the kind of money Berrigan was likely on for Sammut or Chase then IMO we'd be overpaying.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Obst as a back up is better than any option we have at the moment. He won't take up a non-fed place, so I don't see the harm in bringing him in if he's available.'"
Argh!!!!!!
why do people settle for 3rd or even 4th rate, for gods sake!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg":3moo3kpusammut and chase are just a smokescreen. I think we all know the club well enough to now they wouldn't have let a former multiple Oz/SOO player and clive churchill medal winner go without having a top class replacement lined up. I fully expect him to be revealed at the forum on Wednesday and be with the squad at cardiff'" tags Jake
I am beginning to feel what we currently have is all we are getting and the club are recouping the majority of the Westerman fee by saving on Berro's wages.
Hopefully I am wrong and we bring in a couple more players.
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"Argh!!!!!!
why do people settle for 3rd or even 4th rate, for gods sake!!!!!!'"
Care to tell us what other half backs we have in reserve at the club that are better? Or any other half backs that are available (potentially) that aren't non-fed?
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| Quote ="hullbg"You forgot [sarcasmmode and [/sarcasmmode tags Jake
=#0000FFI am beginning to feel what we currently have is all we are getting and the club are recouping the majority of the Westerman fee by saving on Berro's wages.Hopefully I am wrong and we bring in a couple more players.'" Balls, the club have obviously tried signing a couple of people. Just because it hasn't materialised doesn't mean to say we're recouping anything.
If the club can't get the players it wants then it makes sense to keep the money to one side. Or do you want us to panic buy for the sake of it?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Balls, the club have obviously tried signing a couple of people. Just because it hasn't materialised doesn't mean to say we're recouping anything.
If the club can't get the players it wants then it makes sense to keep the money to one side. Or do you want us to panic buy for the sake of it?'"
They have gone for players they are not too likely to get, Myler was never going to leave Wire. Chase has not even been approached by all accounts and no offers made. Sammut we may have had a chance with, but the player has 2 years of a contract still to run which would mean the likelihood of us signing him were slim.
We have no idea if the offers for players were even remotely realistic, but the fact offers were made sends out the right noises to fans. I am not saying this is what happened but it is definitely a possibility.
Do i want us to panic buy? No of course not, but it was apparent pretty early on last season that we needed decent halfback cover which is ample time to bring somebody in.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Care to tell us what other half backs we have in reserve at the club that are better? Or any other half backs that are available (potentially) that aren't non-fed?'"
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| Every cloud has a silver lining and all that and you never know, Agars inability to bring in half back cover could be his downfall this season. Fingers crossed!
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| Quote ="Funk-Doc"James Webster????
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For the salary we'd have to declare for him (due to him being a coach at the club), it wouldn't be a "cheap" option in regards to the salary cap. Plus he's not played for a few years.
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| Quote ="hullbg"They have gone for players they are not too likely to get, Myler was never going to leave Wire. [uChase has not even been approached by all accounts and no offers made[/u. Sammut we may have had a chance with, but the player has 2 years of a contract still to run which would mean the likelihood of us signing him were slim.
We have no idea if the offers for players were even remotely realistic, but the fact offers were made sends out the right noises to fans. I am not saying this is what happened but it is definitely a possibility.
Do i want us to panic buy? No of course not, but it was apparent pretty early on last season that we needed decent halfback cover which is ample time to bring somebody in.'"
Think you might just be wrong there paul,i would say hes been at the very top of agars list,as the saying goes,if at first you dont suceed then try try again,i dont think arthur bunting got toppo at his first attempt,as a matter of fact he never got him at the 2nd attempt,but guess what.
he eventualy got his man
im not saying we will get him but you never know,just wonder if the club could be very crafty and announce a signing or two before the forum on wednesday cos i reckon they will be expecting a barrage of questions from the fans re half back situation etc,but then again if chase or sammut doesnt materialise then he may want to save the cash and stick with players he has got till the right people become available,i reckon nicklas is a star of the future.
If there isnt any new players coming in for the start of the season ill say one thing it wont of been for the want of trying.
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| Rumours are that the Roosters are looking to offload Braith Anasta again. Apparently Parramatta have said no to signing him. Different class to Sammut, and would be well worth an enquiry on our part. Fantastic kicking game and a good organiser.
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| Quote ="wolfie"Think you might just be wrong there paul,i would say hes been at the very top of agars list,as the saying goes,if at first you dont suceed then try try again,i dont think arthur bunting got toppo at his first attempt,as a matter of fact he never got him at the 2nd attempt,but guess what.
he eventualy got his man
im not saying we will get him but you never know,just wonder if the club could be very crafty and announce a signing or two before the forum on wednesday cos i reckon they will be expecting a barrage of questions from the fans re half back situation etc,but then again if chase or sammut doesnt materialise then he may want to save the cash and stick with players he has got till the right people become available,i reckon nicklas is a star of the future.
If there isnt any new players coming in for the start of the season ill say one thing it wont of been for the want of trying.'"
iv seen alot of Nicklas and he has got talent but not seen anything to suggest he's going to be a star , The should be questions raised aswell about the half back situation because yes they have tried to sign players but other clubs have gone out and got players in .Were going to be stuck with Washy as the back up option again or turner .
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| Quote ="old_faithful"Rumours are that the Roosters are looking to offload Braith Anasta again. Apparently Parramatta have said no to signing him. Different class to Sammut, and would be well worth an enquiry on our part. Fantastic kicking game and a good organiser.'"
would of been a great signing earlier in the off season.
Visa would mean a long wait.
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| Quote ="wolfie"Think you might just be wrong there paul,i would say hes been at the very top of agars list,as the saying goes,if at first you dont suceed then try try again,i dont think arthur bunting got toppo at his first attempt,as a matter of fact he never got him at the 2nd attempt,but guess what.
he eventualy got his man
im not saying we will get him but you never know,just wonder if the club could be very crafty and announce a signing or two before the forum on wednesday cos i reckon they will be expecting a barrage of questions from the fans re half back situation etc,but then again if chase or sammut doesnt materialise then he may want to save the cash and stick with players he has got till the right people become available,i reckon nicklas is a star of the future.
If there isnt any new players coming in for the start of the season ill say one thing it wont of been for the want of trying.'"
Like I said I never claim to have insider knowledge on anything, I was just putting a twist on things. Hope you are correct and we get one of Chase or Sammut though. Won't be enough to see us achieve any success but it would be a step in the right direction.
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| Quote ="Funk-Doc"James Webster????
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Every cloud has a silver lining and all that and you never know, Agars inability to bring in half back cover could be his downfall this season. Fingers crossed!
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So your saying you hope we have a crap start and lose so Agar goes????
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Every cloud has a silver lining and all that and you never know, Agars inability to bring in half back cover could be his downfall this season. Fingers crossed!
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Whilst I agree with your sentiment, it's another season and another year of everyone's life piissed away so I think we'd all rather agar actually proved he could coach (which he can't, so he won't).
Didn't the club state at the last forum that finding some half back cover was the number one priority this off season? Seems strange that we've signed a winger and a back rower if that was the case
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"iv seen alot of Nicklas and he has got talent but not seen anything to suggest he's going to be a star , The should be questions raised aswell about the half back situation because yes they have tried to sign players but other clubs have gone out and got players in .Were going to be stuck with Washy as the back up option again or turner .'"
As someone said recently, brian noble signed 3 half backs for crusaders last year when operating on a shoestring that would all have done better than what we had last year
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| Quote ="fc baldy"So your saying you hope we have a crap start and lose so Agar goes????'"
A little short term pain for a long term gain is how id put it. Or would you prefer a repeat of last season with no real progression and then have Agar in charge the season after too?
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno" Or would you prefer a repeat of last season with no real progression and then have Agar in charge the season after too?'"
I have an increasing suspicion that is exactly the scenario that awaits us in 2011/12. Agar seems bulletproof. Whatever my own personal misgivings about his occupancy as our head coach, I'm increasingly resigned to him seeing out his contract and possibly even beyond
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"As someone said recently, brian noble signed 3 half backs for crusaders last year when operating on a shoestring that would all have done better than what we had last year'"
Well said . Other sides do it why can`t we? Hull FC seem to be adverse to signing quality in the halfback role.
Trying to throw cash around with a few weeks until the season starts is a joke. Crusaders are right to hold us to ransom. Hull have cash but it`s the worst kept secret in SL that we need a quality No7.
Berrigan should not have been released until a quality halfback was secured.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"A little short term pain for a long term gain is how id put it. Or would you prefer a repeat of last season with no real progression and then have Agar in charge the season after too?'"
I arent a Agar fan at all and the sooner the inept buffoon goes the better but i dont want us to lose.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Or would you prefer a repeat of last season with no real progression'"
You need to look up the definition of progression.
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| Quote ="BP1"I have an increasing suspicion that is exactly the scenario that awaits us in 2011/12. Agar seems bulletproof. Whatever my own personal misgivings about his occupancy as our head coach, I'm increasingly resigned to him seeing out his contract and possibly even beyond
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I think agar is one of the least at risk coaches in SL. If season pass sales had dropped significantly then the situation might have been different. As it is, unless we do disastrously, then he'll still be here in 12 months time
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I think agar is one of the least at risk coaches in SL. If season pass sales had dropped significantly then the situation might have been different. As it is, unless we do disastrously, then he'll still be here in 12 months time'"
Why should he be at risk ? in the last three seasons we've progressively got more points and last year should have got 4th with no halfbacks for most of the season, he's building a decent young squad and signed some quality overseas players, he seems to be disliked by most people on this board, but imo has done a half decent job, if you put him up against say Mcnamara and what they've managed to achieve over the last few years, then he puts the current GB coach to shame, alot of people might not like his style of play, but he seems to have us on the right track if you judge seasons by performances and points.
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