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| Say the good doctor (i use that term loosely) moved city to melton could we see a team ala fc united of Hull created and play at the KC?
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| Quote ="Ian P"This is going to be a long hot summer ..............
Clearly the first shot of the war has been fired and with promotion Mr Allam feels he has right on his side and he will use the threat of moving to Melton as a lever against the council.
The council will not give in easily, but if he plays the long game and keeps the pressure up until next years elections I think he may force some movement. The local politicians are fully aware of his tactics and even the remnants of Minns Mad army are keeping very quiet. The trouble is that the KC means very little in the scheme of things as it provides no income and never will, but it has the potential to bite the Labout party on the butt.
Then again Hull city just went up in value and I sure that a sale now would yield him a profit on his investment.
Add the restructuring of the Super League into the mix and the conspiricy theorists are going to be on tilt within weeks.'"
I am always pleased to see your sensible input to this Forum but don't you think this is all becoming boring and tedious. Well done to Hull City getting into the top league but how long will they stay there. The last time they had a fair first season and a dire second hence relegation. Now instead of creating waves with their fellow tenants Hull City / Mr Allam needs to come up with a 5 year Plan for their following. Don't spend the next your upsetting everybody by pontificating. Set your Plan out Mr Allam. build your new Stadium as promised but don't wind up the neighbours. Can I ask that you look at Wigan or maybe just ask Brucie and we can all get along just fine.
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| Those City fans have ruined the pitch for our big CC game
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| Fair do's - he has succeeded. Absolutely brilliant for the city.
Chances of a new build at Melton - nil ! Way too expensive & take years to build.
He is a businessman, he has rolled the dice and come up trumps - surely his best bet is to sell on & recoup his investment plus a healthy profit ?
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| If hull is going to have a sustainable premiership team k&c needs to be at least 40-50k capacity. Council are to going to pay to do it so only option is for it to be bought b hull city and developed privately. Where that leaves fc is anyone's guess in the long term. I suspect you are safe as you pay enough rent to make it worthwhile keeping you there.
If the Allams buy Rovers and craven park could be interesting as they may see developing CP as the city's "RL stadium" will "encourage" you to move out of the KC.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"If hull is going to have a sustainable premiership team k&c needs to be at least 40-50k capacity. Council are to going to pay to do it so only option is for it to be bought b hull city and developed privately. Where that leaves fc is anyone's guess in the long term. I suspect you are safe as you pay enough rent to make it worthwhile keeping you there.
If the Allams buy Rovers and craven park could be interesting as they may see developing CP as the city's "RL stadium" will "encourage" you to move out of the KC.'"
Hull City pay enough rent to stay there too.
If Hull FC had to move to NCP they'd lose thousands on the gate, if a merged club had to play at NCP instead of the KC it would lose more.
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| HULL FC have a WATERTIGHT ( is it possible to emphasise this more ?) lease agreement !!!!!
Any , and this is a remote chance , sale of the KC to Allams would see the Council demand that the lease agreements stay in place for FC on a 100 year basis . If not the Guildhall would be under seige from a lobby called BLACK and WHITE army and the Council Labour lot know it
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| so nobody has made an evidenced comment about what "good" come out of Hull having a Premiership side, expected as much. As has been said, we have a lease agreement at the KC, as do City, a new ground will take at least 18 months to throw up (which is what Allam makes most people want to do), and that's after planning and the inevitable referall to Whitehall.
Sorry City, but you're going down before you'll ever own, or move out of, the KC.
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| Good?
Feel good factor, friends and relatives being happy for their clubs success?
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"If hull is going to have a sustainable premiership team k&c needs to be at least 40-50k capacity. Council are to going to pay to do it so only option is for it to be bought b hull city and developed privately. Where that leaves fc is anyone's guess in the long term. I suspect you are safe as you pay enough rent to make it worthwhile keeping you there.
If the Allams buy Rovers and craven park could be interesting as they may see developing CP as the city's "RL stadium" will "encourage" you to move out of the KC.'"
What's the point in having a 40-50k capacity stadium when they don't have the fans to fill it and never will?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"What's the point in having a 40-50k capacity stadium when they don't have the fans to fill it and never will?'"
they didn't even fill it yesterday
it seems some City fans live in the world of fantasy, may be better discussing this on Wizard101 or World of Warcraft?
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| Quote ="Standee"they didn't even fill it yesterday
it seems some City fans live in the world of fantasy, may be better discussing this on Wizard101 or World of Warcraft?'"
Att: 23,812. I would say that is about full if you take into account the gaps they keep between home and away fans.
Both the derbys in 2007 were restricted to just over 23,000
I travel to China with work on a regular basis and you would be surprised how many Chinese people have heard of Hull City because they have played in the Premier league
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"I work on a regular basis and you would be surprised'"
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| Quote ="Standee"not joking there'"
Is that all you have?
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"Is that all you have?
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I guess I could use emoticaons and look really stupid, but I'll leave that to you.
The only work you do in China, I would guess, is wrapping it in paper at Houe of Fraser.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"=#0000FFIf hull is going to have a sustainable premiership team k&c needs to be at least 40-50k capacity. Council are to going to pay to do it so only option is for it to be bought b hull city and developed privately. Where that leaves fc is anyone's guess in the long term. I suspect you are safe as you pay enough rent to make it worthwhile keeping you there.
If the Allams buy Rovers and craven park could be interesting as they may see developing CP as the city's "RL stadium" will "encourage" you to move out of the KC.'"
Why? Only 9 of the top flight currently do. Swansea's is actually smaller than the KC and they just won the league cup and are comfortably midtable.
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| I should imagine City will sell out most games or near enough next season, which I believe they did in 2008-09 before dropping by a few hundred in their relegation season. However, talk of a 40-50,000 capacity stadium is fanciful to say the least.
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| I'm looking forward to some of the stories over the next few months in the HDM. And very much hoping that the Dr gives us some more entertainment on the radio pls pls pls pls.... £5 tickets, merge the rugby and build a sand castle at Brid
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| Wonder what Barcelona will make of the KC pitch?
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| “I would like to see European football here. That is my dream for the fans and it is achievable,” he said.
“Obviously, it will be difficult finishing in the top four of the Premier League without massive spending but there will be chances in the cups.”
similar squad investment to KR coming up?
good to see and Grudgell are in the same boat, "i want something I can't afford"
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| Got to laugh at all these dobbins who are experts in the workings of Allam and the KC.
Dreaming too much i think.
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| Quote ="davey37"Got to laugh at all these dobbins who are experts in the workings of Allam and the KC.
Dreaming too much i think.'"
I guess it's a better use of a Sunday afternoon than worrying about playing Workginton away next season....
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| Quote ="Robbo4"What's the point in having a 40-50k capacity stadium when they don't have the fans to fill it and never will?'"
Was going to post exactly the same. 40-50k people is a ridiculous figure, City only ever sold out the KC 6 or 7 times when they were in the Prem last time. Think extending the East to get it to 30k is more than enough.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Was going to post exactly the same. 40-50k people is a ridiculous figure, City only ever sold out the KC 6 or 7 times when they were in the Prem last time. Think extending the East to get it to 30k is more than enough.'"
and who pays for it, the Council?
6/7K more for a few matches, is that a reasonable pucblic investment, or do they sell it to Allam, so he can asset strip it and stuff his mattress with the people of Hull's money?
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| Didn't he say that he was finished with the council/stadium and would move to Melton when they got promoted?
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