Agar is not the man for me but we are stuck with him for the next 2 years.
Leeds would have hammered anybody yesterday they were awesome.

Other than a couple of players we were woeful though. Leeds would have beaten most teams but we allowed them to play by not slowing the ptb down imo and we never have done.

AGAR OUT.

TBH I am past the point of caring, there is other things in life to care more about.

Hull FC - Rugby Leagues most unambitious club.

two more years of watching boring rugby from a team that didnt look interested yesterday

Agree with that also only Tansey offers anything attacking the line and for me needs to play in the halves while Long is out.
And the forward situation is baffling you start with impact (O'meley) then give the opposition a rest by bringing on Dowes and Cusack when everyone watching would bring on Moa to keep the pressure on

Anyone at Leeds last week would agree that Sam Moa was the stand out player by a country mile, and him been dropped yesterday can only be described as dispicable.

While I have never agreed with his negative aproach to the game and questioned numerous decisions that he has made, I always thought Agar came across has a decent bloke, but him his favourtism must go beyond anything he sees on the training field or at the games and unless he is quite frankly a total retard he has not got the club at heart, and now with the board not willing to act I hope the fans get on his back in every way possible and make his personal life a misery until he is forced to quit his job, it is the only way.

Anyone at Leeds last week would have seen that we are a different team with Sam Moa on the pitch (apart from agar the imbecile)

Anyone at Leeds last week would have also seen, yet again, that Washbrook is just not good enough to be anymore than a squad utility player (apart from Agar the imbecile)

Anyone at Leeds last week would have also seen that Dowes and Radford are just not the standard of props that get you into the top four (apart from Agar the imbecile)

The guy is a clown and he is so far out of his depth that it just isn't funny !!

Agar...do us all a favour and just fook off !!!!

I thought Washy did ok again yesterday. We looked ok in attack, just rubbish in defence again.

You can add Cusack to the Dowes and Radford comment too.

There his players though and he keeps playing them out of position it is him not picking Moa when everyone can see he gives great forward. Its him who picks washbrook to partner Horne when he knows full well that it doesnt work!!!

Think theres more to life then worrying about the way agar talks

Contracts mean nothing in sport these days. The 2 year deal was an attempt to dampen down, what I imagine the board consider unhelpful and distracting speculation, but he won't be at Hull come the end of the season should they continue to play in this manner.

I for one am not quite ready to join the Agar out crowd, there is enough about this team for him to still come good imo, but I can quite understand why some people are calling for the axe.

There is enough in the team to come good in my opinion, but even if that is the case it will be in spite of Agar.

Totally agree with you

Look at warrington and cullen quality players but cr@p coach they bring in Smith and they win the challenge cup and are going to be big challengers again this year!!!

No. A coach in charge of the team, the tactics, the subsitutations, the disapline, all aspects. If the team come good, then Agar is part of it. Same for any coach, in any comparable sport.

So, you say a coach turned the fortunes of the club around thus demonstrating the importance of the role, but agree with him that that any success at Hull FC now would be in spite of the coach? That's somewhat confusing.

Do you not think though it works both ways?, whoever was in charge of the current Wigan team they wold still be a good side because of the quality they have, but there appointment of there coach has taken them to another level, the players we have we will be a decent side, not as good as we could be tough.

Of course it works both ways, that's exactly my point.

The players have to play for the coach and the coach has to perform for the players. That's how you suceed in sports like Rugby League, at this level at least. Hence why I say, if the lads start performing again, and we start winning then Agar should get a proportion of the credit, as it certainly will not be "in spite" of him imo.

None of this means that I believe that Agar is a good coach, there is very little to show that at the moment, but the point remains nonetheless.

Fair point.

I personally think this thread should be entitled 'AGAR & RULE OUT' as its that fecking tool that keeps on backing Agar. Theyre both as useless as each other IMO.

It is Rules job, do you expect any club who still employs a coach to say he is doing a terrible job?

Rule did not give Agar a 2 year extension, that was down to other people.

Well, the way Huddersfield are stuffing Rovers 18-0 at the moment, I would say employing a coach who knows what he's doing is ample proof that Agar is out of his depth.

Lot's of people on here rate Morgan

It is up to individuals to be at their best, but it is up to the coach for the team to be at it's best. There are some good individual performances, but some (if not most) things can only be done successfully as a team.
There have been many seasons when we have played well above ourselves, and that is because we played as a team. We are very much under performing since Sharp/Agar

Watching the Hudds/Rovers game is actually making me more depressed, to see a club that has such p!ss poor support fielding a team of such quality and playing a brand of rugby league we could only dream of. We are being well and truely mugged at Hull

Hudds are another team who look fitter, stronger, more committed and far sharper than Hull have looked for 5 years plus. Every player knows their job and performs it to the best of their ability. They are clearly motivated and confident in their level of fitness to be able to put 4 and 5 players into tackles, to chase kicks hard, and to keep a fast line speed. We are getting worse and not better in these fundamentals of the game. It is a fair question to ask why we cant get near these levels.