Motu
Calderwood
Yeaman
Hall
Raynor
Horne
Berrigan
Dowes
Lee
Thackray
Radford
Tickle
Whiting

King
Maloney
Houghton
Burnett

Swap the centre around and let Hall play on his more natural side, add Whiting to the creative mix.

My team for Saints

Tony
Calderwood
Yeaman
Hall
Raynor
Horne
Berrigan
Dowes
Lee
King
Tickle
Radford
Whiting

Subs -
Houghton
Maloney
Burnett
Thackray

Stop nicking my side

Not quite





My side would beat yours

I would go with that. Dont think Agar will move Radders from loose forward though!

Agreed. Whiting should have been at LF weeks ago.

I think Whiting needs to be in a more central role now I thought he was caught out of position a few times yesterday.

Hall and Yeaman in the centres.

IMO it is not looking something like. We have shipped 3 tries in 2 games as a direct result of Whiting getting his defensive positioning/reading wrong. Personally I rate him but we should be giving him a chance at LF.

Thorman is a disgrace to the club and the no 7 shirt, but I bet Agar plays him against Saints. Changes are needed - here goes ......
Tony (not ideal)
Calderwood
Hall
Yeaman
Raynor
Horne
Berrigan (not ideal)
Radford
Houghton
Thackray
Burnett
Tickle
Whiting

Lee
somebody with passion
ditto
ditto

Saves me typing it out mate..........SPOT ON with that team

Works for me.

Doubt we'll see it, though.

Although he was replaced by a one-legged player who's been out for weeks and hasn't been training at half even when he was fit. And he still created more, even if he had no pace and the timing of his passes was a bit off. Plus the game had gone and the players were visibly down, especially after the mistake from the drop-out.

Basically, I don't think we can judge the attack with Berrigan at half based on that 40 mins.

I would go with that, but may be (just may be) I would swap King for Moa.

I would let Thorman go. He is clearly not up to it. I could give a lengthy monologue on why but, basically, I think the crux is that he offers us nothing in attack and nothing in defence. His, sometimes good, kicking game was not even on display last night. I'd rather see Lee given a longer chance at 7 than carry on with this debacle.

Best kick we put up all night was from a hurried lee radford! Says it all......

If you exclude Horney's for Yeamo's try

Haha yeah possibly anyway don't start gettin clever we are picking on thorman ain't we!!!

I hope Thorman has played his last game for us, he is clearly incompetent and dis-interested.

I agree with the comments though that whether he was on the pitch or not we looked clueless with the ball. Do we even work with the ball in training as it doesnt look that way. Everything seemed to be unplanned and no one seemed to know what was going on at any point in time. Sack the coach and take Thorman with him for me!

i think berro would thrive at 7, and would be good there, with options coming off him!

He looked eagar when he went there in the second half, but you could tell the side were deflated after the try right on half time. You could tell he was thinking along the right lines when he tried to give the ball to raynor, alright it went behing him but he slipped when releasing it, but the close up of raynor saw him nod to berro for the idea, its that kind of creativity we want

That's the one thing I would possibly change in my side, Moa deserves a shot ahead of King.

I don't knock individual players ..But this time CT should take a good look at himself ..to have a off day with your kicking game is one thing but his overall performance was shocking ..for the leeds game I would have left R Horne at F/B put Berro /T Lee at H/Bs and Danny H and M Tony at hooker ..M Tony look a little rusty and should have been played has a interchange ..But that gone now next game is Saints

Looking forward to that one

Oh when the saints, get beat by Hull, oh when the saints get beat by Hull

Im finishing work at 3 and will be in the pub for 4 to have a few pints down me to numb the pain of watching it.

Jesus. Not this again. Whatever you think Whiting's best position is, he is currently the best centre at the club.



The same would be true of any winger and will remain so until the attacking problems are sorted out.



No. The tries were shipped as a direct result of the defence being too compressed in the middle of the park, leaving four players for Whiting and Calderwood to cover.



I'm not. I'm a million percent sure that Berrigan will be a better option. That said, any scrum half would struggle given the lack of forward power we currently have.

To me he is killing the team even more than any one or anything els should not play again for Hull and hope and pray to god he dose not get a new contract