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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Well done Lee keep up the good work , some of us kept the faith but no doubt the fickle ones will be on the Radford band wagon now'"
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz how boring and predicatable , nobody as ever wanted radford to fail, and lets hope the band waggoners do get back on board, we all want a full kc and those big days outs
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Hahaha I cant, ive been saying it for at least 2 seasons and no one would listen ha. And im not just on about his proffesionalism , he was poor for us season after season, and we made excuses for him, tried building a team around him, because of his so called potential!!! And its just never worked, its held us back for seasons. No radford shouldnt of been thrown in the deep end as head coach, season ticket sales and the past 2 seasons of awful rugby proof that. 2 games in and you cant but give radford credit for the performances, and long may that continue. You need to let the gentle thing go, he didnt do bad, and the way the team got rid of him was a disgrace'"
Radford had to be in the job to be where we are now. Signs where already there last year. We've just added more quality to take us too the next level.
Gentle assembled a pack of o Carroll pitts Johnston aspinwal(although latter did us well tbf) let lynch go(thought he was finished - since had two great cas years and signed till 201icon_cool.gif. Signed macdonnall and Miller and arundel on silly monies. Was ready to sell Shaul. Wanted to bring in an ozzie winger instead of using lineham. He was terrible for us. I knew he was leaving whilst on the way TO the cup semi. That's how much of a mess we was
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"You have to give credit to radford and all concerned for the way they've prepared the team pre season and for the first 2 matches. I personally believe getting rid of westerman was the masterstroke, just wished they'd it done 2 seasons ago. The recruitment looks outstanding, leaders all over the field, and a lot of very proffessional rugby league players, plus strength in depth. Hopefully radford as finished is apprenticeship, which shoudnt of been done whilst head coach of a super league team, it was at times unbearable. But signs are good, hes got his squad, full of true pro's, which i think has been his aim. Lets hope things continue in this manner win or lose, because I think Radford and this team could do something special this next few seasons, carry on with the style of rugby and the passion for the shirt, and the fans will come back. Its so so good been excited about watching the black and whites again'"
Bang on Tinkler.
Getting rid of our most unprofessional player in Westy whilst getting some £ in return was some decent business. Our attack looks so much better without him having his hands on the ball each tackle slowing things down.
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz how boring and predicatable , nobody as ever wanted radford to fail, and lets hope the band waggoners do get back on board, we all want a full kc and those big days outs'"
I could name one certain poster with a personal vendetta who definitely wants to see radford fail
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Radford had to be in the job to be where we are now. Signs where already there last year. We've just added more quality to take us too the next level.
Gentle assembled a pack of o Carroll pitts Johnston aspinwal(although latter did us well tbf) let lynch go(thought he was finished - since had two great cas years and signed till 201icon_cool.gif. Signed macdonnall and Miller and arundel on silly monies. Was ready to sell Shaul. Wanted to bring in an ozzie winger instead of using lineham. He was terrible for us. I knew he was leaving whilst on the way TO the cup semi. That's how much of a mess we was'"
To be honest, really cant be bothered to go over the same old, same old, people see it in differant ways. The only thing I will say, is that I muched prefered watching and paying out my money to watch gentles team , then I have the last 2 seasons. But thats all done now, and im jumping on the radford band waggon ha, at least to the cas game anyway
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| Based upon this season, we appear to have progressed and Radford has to take credit for this, along with the rest of the coaching and recruiting team.
I also remember Agar winning the first five games, before fading. However, I know it's early, but the manner in which we have won our games so far this season feels different.
My benchmark for Lee Radford as a Coach comes from how I felt about the state of the team last Good Friday. We'd sacked Gentle as 6th place and Wembley was not deemed good enough. Radford clearly courted the job and then was backed to the hilt. Two seasons going backwards seemed a fair enough period to assess his ability.
I like others wanted a change, but it was Adam Pearson's decision to stick with Lee.
This season's early signs are that the defence is strong, we have numerous attacking options, are scoring quite freely, have a kicking game and better game management. We also have more strength in depth. I can't recall any discussions last season on whether Mini or Ellis should miss out on the 17.
Yes, we may be just a two game wonder, however the way we are bossing the games, I'm expecting more of the same v Cas. Looking at the next few fixtures suggests our league position on Good Friday may be much better than it was last year.
A fair assessment of our initial progress this season will be after the Easter programme. However, I've more confidence in our ability than I have for a long time and that feels good.
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| Based upon this season, we appear to have progressed and Radford has to take credit for this, along with the rest of the coaching and recruiting team.
I also remember Agar winning the first five games, before fading. However, I know it's early, but the manner in which we have won our games so far this season feels different.
My benchmark for Lee Radford as a Coach comes from how I felt about the state of the team last Good Friday. We'd sacked Gentle as 6th place and Wembley was not deemed good enough. Radford clearly courted the job and then was backed to the hilt. Two seasons going backwards seemed a fair enough period to assess his ability.
I like others wanted a change, but it was Adam Pearson's decision to stick with Lee.
This season's early signs are that the defence is strong, we have numerous attacking options, are scoring quite freely, have a kicking game and better game management. We also have more strength in depth. I can't recall any discussions last season on whether Mini or Ellis should miss out on the 17.
Yes, we may be just a two game wonder, however the way we are bossing the games, I'm expecting more of the same v Cas. Looking at the next few fixtures suggests our league position on Good Friday may be much better than it was last year.
A fair assessment of our initial progress this season will be after the Easter programme. However, I've more confidence in our ability than I have for a long time and that feels good.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"I could name one certain poster with a personal vendetta who definitely wants to see radford fail'"
Knockers just knocker, makes me laugh if im honest, and he does make some valid points sometimes, just puts them across in a strange way sometimes. I think some off you take him far to serious
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| Quote ="Rugby Raider"Based upon this season, we appear to have progressed and Radford has to take credit for this, along with the rest of the coaching and recruiting team.
I also remember Agar winning the first five games, before fading. However, I know it's early, but the manner in which we have won our games so far this season feels different.
My benchmark for Lee Radford as a Coach comes from how I felt about the state of the team last Good Friday. We'd sacked Gentle as 6th place and Wembley was not deemed good enough. Radford clearly courted the job and then was backed to the hilt. Two seasons going backwards seemed a fair enough period to assess his ability.
I like others wanted a change, but it was Adam Pearson's decision to stick with Lee.
This season's early signs are that the defence is strong, we have numerous attacking options, are scoring quite freely, have a kicking game and better game management. We also have more strength in depth. I can't recall any discussions last season on whether Mini or Ellis should miss out on the 17.
Yes, we may be just a two game wonder, however the way we are bossing the games, I'm expecting more of the same v Cas. Looking at the next few fixtures suggests our league position on Good Friday may be much better than it was last year.
A fair assessment of our initial progress this season will be after the Easter programme. However, I've more confidence in our ability than I have for a long time and that feels good.
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Another one jumping on the radford band waggon! Makes me sick ha
Seriously though. Good post, I feel the same
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| Early signs are good but we need tio judge things at the end of the season, not the beginning
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Early signs are good but we need tio judge things at the end of the season, not the beginning'"
I agree Jake but the confidence is oozing from this team and that alone is worth points.
If we have convincing wins against Cas and Wigan there wont be any teams that will look forward to playing us especially when you have Big Frank and Gaz Ellis coming off the bench together.
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| Quote ="bonaire"I agree Jake but the confidence is oozing from this team and that alone is worth points.
If we have convincing wins against Cas and Wigan there wont be any teams that will look forward to playing us especially when you have Big Frank and Gaz Ellis coming off the bench together.'"
If we beat cas and wigan then we'll have every reason to look forward to the rest of the season confidently. Things looking good so far but we shouldn't get carried away
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| Bandwagonners, how utterly ridiculous! We've won two games (albeit convincingly) on the back of two absolutely dreadful seasons with the direst rugby for years.
Harsh criticism of the coach and owner for why we were not competing and playing more gash than good is more than justified as was rhe call for the coach to be rid of.
personal vendetta, doom and gloom you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you sit back as an investor and watch silently as the person/persons running things turn a team going forward into one close to being relegated and last season play incredibly poorly aside from a short period of player led change?
Just because you disagree with others doesn't allow you the scope to be a complete troll of the worst kind!
Fast forward 4 months, we have the best squad assembled probably since the 80s, it's even better than the 05/06 squads iMHO.
AND importantly the way we play, the professionalism, the preparation so far seems to be miles in front of the last two seasons so we are able to hopefully maximise the talent we have.
So far that's a big plusand credit to the coach and his team and whatever it is that has changed things we as fans can say yes, this is what we wamt, attacking, thoughtful, professional rugby with desire from players that has beomg missing.
I'll support that (not that i ever stopped) and applaud the club as a whole for the changes (signings/direction of playing etc)
Does that make me or anyone else impressed with the changes, excited with how we're playing bandwagonner's...no.
More of the same please Mr.Radford
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If we beat cas and wigan then we'll have every reason to look forward to the rest of the season confidently. Things looking good so far but we shouldn't get carried away'"
Spot on, and I'm not too sure a two week break is what we need at this time.
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| I don't think anyone's suggesting a bronze statue outside the KC for our coach. If we'd started badly, he'd have been absolutely slated on here. But we haven't, so maybe he gets cut a little slack.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I don't think anyone's suggesting a bronze statue outside the KC for our coach. If we'd started badly, he'd have been absolutely slated on here. But we haven't, so maybe he gets cut a little slack.'"
I've not seen any threads calling for his head since the season started so maybe people had already worked that out for themselves?
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| I think you can get carried away.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Bandwagonners, how utterly ridiculous! We've won two games (albeit convincingly) on the back of two absolutely dreadful seasons with the direst rugby for years.
Harsh criticism of the coach and owner for why we were not competing and playing more gash than good is more than justified as was rhe call for the coach to be rid of.
personal vendetta, doom and gloom you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you sit back as an investor and watch silently as the person/persons running things turn a team going forward into one close to being relegated and last season play incredibly poorly aside from a short period of player led change?
Just because you disagree with others doesn't allow you the scope to be a complete troll of the worst kind!
Fast forward 4 months, we have the best squad assembled probably since the 80s, it's even better than the 05/06 squads iMHO.
AND importantly the way we play, the professionalism, the preparation so far seems to be miles in front of the last two seasons so we are able to hopefully maximise the talent we have.
So far that's a big plusand credit to the coach and his team and whatever it is that has changed things we as fans can say yes, this is what we wamt, attacking, thoughtful, professional rugby with desire from players that has beomg missing.
I'll support that (not that i ever stopped) and applaud the club as a whole for the changes (signings/direction of playing etc)
Does that make me or anyone else impressed with the changes, excited with how we're playing bandwagonner's...no.
More of the same please Mr.Radford'"
A public petition calling for the man to lose his job and made up libellous comments regarding him being a bully (see the moderators comments from a couple of weeks ago) - yeh, you do have a personal vendetta, what else is it? As for calling me a troll, that's rich. Is that because I've outed you as the troll you are, so you call me one back? Very school yard of you Bumpy.
Anyway, enough of feeding the troll - Radders. He and Tony inherited an absolute mess in terms of salary cap management and the squad they were left with. It's taken them a couple of years to sort out and ship out the idiots, but it's now there's, it's his team, no excuses on that front.
Our attack, baring the end of last season, has been very poor. But let's not forget our defence was very good last year, and we were right at the top of the stats for offloads, meters made, tackle busts etc. We were capable of getting the ball into the danger zone, just terrible at converting that pressure into tries. Not [ieverything[/i was as terrible as we think last year.
Fast forward to this season, we've made some brilliant signings and worked very hard at fixing that attack, whilst maintaining the good points from last year I've just mentioned.
It's a great start, credit to him and everyone else at the club.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"I think you can get carried away.'"
Same at rovers. With a scratch side it's hardly a disaster losing at wire. As for your paper thin squad, surely that's down to your ceo and football manager as much as chester
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Another one jumping on the radford band waggon! Makes me sick ha
Seriously though. Good post, I feel the same'"
No Bandwagon for me. Call it as I see it, but always on the basis that if its right to criticise, it's also right to compliment when thinks go well. Radford copped it last season, so deserves the support for the early signs of improvement.
Always try and keep a sense of perspective. As a previous thread has shown, we've only ever finished top of the tree three times. Saying that, we are not bottom of the league either. And the league table don't lie!
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| The overall mood on here is cautious optimism. Radford is doing everything right and there seems little to criticise as the team is honed and tweaked slightly to best effect. His bench has been perfect and seems to know the balance to take and when to relieve the pressure. This can only come from trial and error.
I've been a harsh critic of him, but no-one can deny that since the Rovers demolition, we have played the best rugby in over a decade. Lets not forget he's a young coach and clearly has respect from his team. The problems with Shaul must be well behind them and we have an exciting set of kids that Radford is not afraid to unleash.
Yes, it's only 2 games but we have shown an edge to our attack that is heading towards that of Millward's Saints team.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The subject of much vitriol over the last couple of seasons.
I think most would concede that he's improved the quality of the squad, our attacking play looks to be in a better place, and team spirit is better. In the context of the negativity he's attracted thus far, maybe he deserves a little credit?'"
At this level the coach influence is a much smaller percentage of the overall package than the quality of the players. Radford d has cleared out the dross, with Pearson's significant financial support and for that he deserves great credit. It's tough for some who entrenched themselves into a position of negativity about Radford but at the end of the day better players will always do better and at last we have some star quality to watch. Good players seem more than happy to sign for and play at Hull and that probably says more than anything about the coach and his team.
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| I had my doubts about Radford in the beginning but now it's clear what he's trying to achieve and I think it's fantastic. I hope for all of our sake his hard work pays off
I hope I am still feeling this positive in a couple of months because it's looking like a great season, from a hull perspective and also because the SL super powers look to be changing a little. Leeds have been superb over the last ten years but I don't enjoy seeing one team dominate
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| The proof of the pudding will most definitely be in the eating. If we don't make at least top 4 or the CC final it's a failed season and Radford should go. That's the players view too (regrding where we should be) as reported in the HDM.
As I said previously if Radford can't get some sort of success with this squad then he'll never do it as comparatively we have one of the very best squads and deffo best pack in SL and should be challenging for silverware.
So far so good and he gets my backing, if we fall short again by season end then he has to go because there are no excuses this year.
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