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| Quote ="Rommel"Not read through all the tripe but i can't wonder why Hull would let there best player this year from there academy leave to a rival
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Because we dont know how to produce top young players. One proper international produced from our club this decade says it all
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| Quote ="Linebreaker"I truly think that some folk on here make statements about players they have very little or no knowledge of what-so-ever. Statements about Hodgeson being average make no sense when the kid has been the outstanding player in the reserves this season. Player of the year award to boot.
OK, it's reserve grade but always remember, they are playing against the "potential" SL players from other SL clubs. Players all of these clubs believe have some potential. All still learning, all still developing and he stood out in quite a few games this year. I would think the coaches at youth level will all be very sad the kid is leaving at this stage of his development.
I hear time and time again how much of a poor wage we offer these young kids. No wonder they choose pastures new. These young people are on full time contracts which means they cannot work in a normal way and basically have to rely on the wages offered by SL clubs. It aint much let me tell you. Money talks. Many of the current local lads are surprised when they hear tal;k of payments other clubs offer to some of their prospects.
Josh Hodgeson and Danny Houghton are different types of 9's imo. Houghton is much quicker around the ruck and gives momentum in this way especially impacting on the game. Hodgeson offers more variety from I have seen. I have seen Hodgeson take control of games when playing 9. He has the confidence to play on his initiative.
He might make it, he might not, many dont, but to say he's an average SL player when he's hardly been given a fair crack is nonsense.'"
I think its called having an opinion. My opinion is obviously different to some on here as I think whilst a good player, at this stage of his life/career is no better than Tommy or Danny which meant there was nowhere for him to fit in. I presume the club thought the same.
Im certainly not knocking him but merely saying we cant keep them all and unfortunately for him he plays in a position the club believe they have adequately covered.
To say when he has the ball opposing teams panic is in my opinion a little far fetched and something I and obviously the club have regrettably not seen !!
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| Quote ="nonine"nice to know there are people on here that know there sport'"
Your either Josh Hodgson or a member of his family aren't you?
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Your either Josh Hodgson or a member of his family aren't you?
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To be fair to Josh he has a bright future but i'd have said at an NL1 team as a hooker. We've ruined him to some extent by moving him to 13, but then he was never going to compete with Berro, Houghton or even Tommy Lee. Hope Morgan can work his magic and make him an SL player but he's a grafter at best imo.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"icon_lol.gif To be fair to Josh he has a bright future but i'd have said at an NL1 team as a hooker. We've ruined him to some extent by moving him to 13, but then he was never going to compete with Berro, Houghton or even Tommy Lee. Hope Morgan can work his magic and make him an SL player but he's a grafter at best imo.'"
Think Hodgsons attitude is very good. Never a backrow IMO but hopefully will do well if given the chance at hooker for Rovers.
Wouldnt have got into my 17 next season so the move makes sense for all parties. Not sure why all the fuss TBH.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Not sure why all the fuss TBH.'"
Agree 100%. FC reserve teamer allowed to join Rovers. Where's the story there?
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Think Hodgsons attitude is very good. Never a backrow IMO but hopefully will do well if given the chance at hooker for Rovers.
Wouldnt have got into my 17 next season so the move makes sense for all parties. Not sure why all the fuss TBH.'"
Two reasons...
1. He's gone to Rovers.
2. We haven't lost a game recently so it's something else to moan about.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Two reasons...
1. He's gone to Rovers.
2. We haven't lost a game recently so it's something else to moan about.'"
Fair do's!
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| Quote ="Kosh"Two reasons...
1. He's gone to Rovers.
2. We haven't lost a game recently so it's something else to moan about.'"
3. He's a great young player being allowed to leave by the club who are more interested in signing old aussie players.
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| Quote ="Standee"3. He's a great young player being allowed to leave by the club who are more interested in signing old aussie players.'"
Do you honestly believe that or are you just trying to have a negative pop at the club again?
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| Quote ="Standee"3. He's a great young player being allowed to leave by the club who are more interested in signing old aussie players.'"
Like Tansey and Turner.
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| Quote ="Standee"3. He's a great young player being allowed to leave by the club who are more interested in signing old aussie players.'"
Better than Houghton in your opinion ?
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| Quote ="Standee"3. He's a great young player being allowed to leave by the club who are more interested in signing old aussie players.'"
Like Jack Briscoe and Reece Lynn?
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| Quote ="Linebreaker"I truly think that some folk on here make statements about players they have very little or no knowledge of what-so-ever. Statements about Hodgeson being average make no sense when the kid has been the outstanding player in the reserves this season. Player of the year award to boot.
OK, it's reserve grade but always remember, they are playing against the "potential" SL players from other SL clubs. Players all of these clubs believe have some potential. All still learning, all still developing and he stood out in quite a few games this year. I would think the coaches at youth level will all be very sad the kid is leaving at this stage of his development.
I hear time and time again how much of a poor wage we offer these young kids. No wonder they choose pastures new. These young people are on full time contracts which means they cannot work in a normal way and basically have to rely on the wages offered by SL clubs. It aint much let me tell you. Money talks. Many of the current local lads are surprised when they hear tal;k of payments other clubs offer to some of their prospects.
Josh Hodgeson and Danny Houghton are different types of 9's imo. Houghton is much quicker around the ruck and gives momentum in this way especially impacting on the game. Hodgeson offers more variety from I have seen. I have seen Hodgeson take control of games when playing 9. He has the confidence to play on his initiative.
He might make it, he might not, many dont, but to say he's an average SL player when he's hardly been given a fair crack is nonsense.'"
Agreed. Think he played twice for Hull last year at first grade, maybe even once and for many to judge him for this is nonsense. An example is Kris Whelham for us, has grabbed his opportunity with both hands and has improved his game and is a better player for his run in the first team. Hopefully Josh does the same
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Do you honestly believe that or are you just trying to have a negative pop at the club again?'"
Berrigan looks knackered, Houghton is too slow distributing the ball, this kid has just won reserve player of the year, surely another season would have been worth our while?
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Better than Houghton in your opinion ?'"
From what I am told, yes.
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| Quote ="Standee"From what I am told, yes.'"
From what you are told? How is that in your opinion?
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"From what you are told? How is that in your opinion?
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Because I can base my opinion on ifnormation given by various, trusted, sources.
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| Quote ="Standee"Berrigan looks knackered, Houghton is too slow distributing the ball, this kid has just won reserve player of the year, surely another season would have been worth our while?'"
Ok so what does Josh have that Berro,Tommy and Danny dont ?
Why is Josh such a talent and what does he have that makes him a better prospect to the three hookers currently above him in the pecking order ?
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"Ok so what does Josh have that Berro,Tommy and Danny dont ?
Why is Josh such a talent and what does he have that makes him a better prospect to the three hookers currently above him in the pecking order ?'"
In the case of Lee, Josh has a career at a top SL club.
Berrigan is knackered, and also looks pretty disinterested this season.
Houghton is too slow at taking options.
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| Hodgson is nowhere near as good as Houghton.
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| Quote ="Standee"this kid has just won reserve player of the year, surely another season would have been worth our while?'"
If Tommy Lee had not been good enough to play in the first team I'm sure he would have won the reserve team player of the year. He is a lot better player than hodgeson but people don't care if he leaves.
Also the club did offer a new contract but rovers offered a better chance of playing first team.
The club cannot keep every player that comes through the ranks especially when it already has 3 better players in that position.
one minute everyone is complaining that we have too many average players next minute there complaining because we're letting our 4th rated hooker go. He has had his chance this year and has not stood out. I don't think I can remember a single thing he did, except getting pummeled pre-season against leeds.
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| Quote ="Willa"
Also the club did offer a new contract but rovers offered a better chance of playing first team.
The club cannot keep every player that comes through the ranks especially when it already has 3 better players in that position.'"
And a lot more money
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| Quote ="Willa"The club cannot keep every player that comes through the ranks especially when it already has 3 better players in that position.'"
Precisely.
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| Quote ="Willa"The club cannot keep every player that comes through the ranks especially when it already has 3 better players in that position.'"
Too true. If the club kept every player that the fans had some kind of attachment to, the squad would have about 200 blokes in it. The facts of the matter are we cannot keep every player that comes through the ranks.
What we ought to be making a fuss about is that our youth development is good enough to produce to players we can afford to release. The production of good talent is great for us, look at what's been left in the reserves; younger Briscoe, Reece Lynne, et al. This production line is part of the reason why we got an A grade license.
If Rovers are content in signing players who have come through Hull's ranks, then good for them.
Goodluck to Josh, if he's on a better deal and has the chance at more first team rugby.
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