I used to go in the circle restaurant and it was full at the time so if we don't even open it for every match then I doubt our commercial revenue is 3 times what it was. Maybe the tatoo parlour and chippy who advertise on the scoreboard are paying a lot?

The commercial side of Hull FC has noticeably gone downhill over the past few years.

There are people round there not even too fussed with the pulse as a requirement!!

Since Pearson took over. Get it right. Not just me saying this - its been said by lots over the last few years.

I'm shocked Barista hasnt been all over the treble claim, maybe if i or Seb posted it she'd have been upping her post count to the max

Can people prove how much worst the commercial side of the club has got, since people are asking the poster who claimed Sarah has improved the commercial side I think it's only far that others provide evidence also.

Come on Dave, you know that's not how it works!

I still no evidence.

Just seen APs first press conference at LUFC on Calendar. What a circus. Cellino rambling on in part-English part-Italian, going outside for a smoke mid-conference and getting into a slanging match with a fan who'd blagged his way in.
It made me feel a while lot better about LR's RH interview last week.

The FIRST person making a definitive statement regarding our sales (without any evidence) is the one to provide such. You can't then turn around and say prove otherwise when those counter-claims were made on the back of the original statement that didn't have any evidence to support it.
All one could ask is that there is some semblance of evidence to back up what's being said, that others are sceptical doesn't put the onus on those doubters.
Personally if there was ANY increase in commercial sales in the last couple of years that would indeed be an incredible achievement in a dwindling market especially given cut backs by all companies never mind local ones with smaller budgets for sponsorship. But a three fold one?

Quote ="Lang Park"Not personally, no. But a look at her FC website of LinkedIn profile shows how qaulified she is for the CEOs position. This isn't a personal thing, just a concern that we have no real experienced directors other than AP, and he's admitted he's happy for the others to more or less run the club whilst he's at LUFC. See this thread viewtopic.php? ... 2&start=30 '" Munson, Anthony Sutton & one other are officially no longer directors at Hull Super League LTD, they left within the last 2 months, Munson on the 17th April along with Tony Sutton. companycheck.co.uk/company/03555364

Quote ="Lang Park"Not personally, no. But a look at her FC website of LinkedIn profile shows how qaulified she is for the CEOs position. This isn't a personal thing, just a concern that we have no real experienced directors other than AP, and he's admitted he's happy for the others to more or less run the club whilst he's at LUFC. See this thread viewtopic.php? ... 2&start=30 '" Munson, Anthony Sutton & one other are officially no longer directors at Hull Super League LTD, they left within the last 2 months, Munson on the 17th April along with Tony Sutton. companycheck.co.uk/company/03555364

That's class.


Our owner looks decidedly uncomfortable sat listening to his new boss.
Mad as a box of frogs, he must be paying well or AP is just looking for a way in and the bigger picture.
Who knows?

So the answer to someone claiming a positive is to ask the sceptics to provide evidence to the contrary?

Is that how you really think it really works?

Not really,

On one hand you have poster who comes on here claiming something positive about the club, suddenly people start demanding to see evidence.

Then a few posts later, people starting saying how the poor the club is at the same thing, nobody (except me and to be honest I don't care and it was more to raise a point) asks for any evidence, just takes the word of the poster.

It just seems that everyone believes anything negative about the club at the current time, but anything positive is immediately rubbished.

Without any evidence from either side, nobody can state how good or bad the current commercial side of the business is, the current financial state of the country compared to 5 years ago will certainly have had an impact on the corporate side of the club.

I agree re evidence, but come on the statement is clearly wrong. I don't need any evidence whatsoever to realise that the clubs commercial revenue has not trebled. It is not a positive statement about the club, rather misinformation.

Why is the statement wrong? From what point in time are we using as a yardstick in order to calculate the improvement ? Come out with solid evidence it is untrue (do a bit of digging) then produce the facts . As an aside where is the evidence that Tom L is leaving?

Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Munson, Anthony Sutton & one other are officially no longer directors at Hull Super League LTD, they left within the last 2 months, Munson on the 17th April along with Tony Sutton. companycheck.co.uk/company/03555364'" With that number of directors leaving in the last couple of months (have they been replaced) ?, the owner acquiring a full time position in his preferred sport and a poster claiming the players were paid late last month would seem a concern IMO.

Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Munson, Anthony Sutton & one other are officially no longer directors at Hull Super League LTD, they left within the last 2 months, Munson on the 17th April along with Tony Sutton. companycheck.co.uk/company/03555364'" With that number of directors leaving in the last couple of months (have they been replaced) ?, the owner acquiring a full time position in his preferred sport and a poster claiming the players were paid late last month would seem a concern IMO.

But your opinion is worth nothing on here. Go back where you belong.

Tony Sutton actually left last year (I think it was August or September) to take up a full-time position at Hull College. If he has remained as a director until recently I doubt he was on the payroll. Alternatively it may just be there was a delay in notifying Companies House of his resignation.

The point you make is fair in principle, that assertions should be backed up with evidence but in this case the two statements are significantly different.

The first is that "Sarah Mcallister has trebled hull fc commercial sales in the time she has had at the club". This is a time bound claim (2009-2015) about a discrete figure. The person making it must be basing their claim on some kind of evidence (accounts or sales records for example) so we are asking them to share this evidence with us to verify their claim.

The second is a more general assertion that "The commercial side of Hull FC has noticeably gone downhill over the past few years". This is obviously a negative statement but it doesn't refer to any discrete metric that the poster has based their statement on. It is more an expression of opinion than fact. I would suggest that rather than asking for evidence straight away you'd be better asking for clarification on what the poster means by "commercial side" and "downhill". You can then ask for relevant evidence. It may be that the poster means that the shirt sponsor is no longer a global brand and various facilities within the stadium are closed on matchdays. The evidence to those is in the public domain, as is evident in the post by The Dentist Wilf.

i've a leeds utd supporting friend who is involved with the supporters club and today there was apparently a bizarre press conference featuring the owner, stating things along the line of he wants to pick the team and the current manager hasn't been given the job yet etc etc. my friend's reports are adam pearson looked flustered and unhappy, so his stay at leeds may yet turn out to be a short one

bit more [url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/video-leeds-united-redfearn-future-unclear-after-cellino-press-conference-1-7261051info[/url

Yes, I mentioned this in my post last night. It was on the late Calendar. I can't see that lasting long, it was quite bizzare.

Yes I watched that too,AP looked embarrassed.

I don't believe it, and I am not about to start researching every banal message board post. It's categorically not true and you know it. So, perhaps then you can prove she has trebled the commercial revenue of Hull FC? Either that, or the poster can probably define which element of commercial revenue she has trebled?