He lacks any mobility and gives away stupid penalties due to this, be it getting caught slowing the PTB down for too long or not standing square.

In attack he strolls into the collision and gets held up far too easy which some people seem to clap and see it as good leg drive however i see it is great defence as by surrrendering a few extra yards they get more time to get their D-line set.

Iv'e seen enough games to decide for myself, i didn't realise you was Wayne Bennett and a super coach

Make's me p1ss on here i wonder why some people go because according to this board around 75% of our player's aern't good enough

As for giving away penalties Radders isn't on his own is he,

So fans should only go if they think the team is good?

Also, did he say Radders was the only one?

He was just putting forward his opinion like you were. Calm down.


Really? What makes me laugh is folk who can't seem to accept that not every player in our squad is a world class star. Or that some of them may well be very average indeed.

And since when did people have to think that the team was great in order to support the club or attend games? Did you miss the Lloyd era?


Nope. But he's one of the worst. And he should know better.

Whoah nothing like going off on 1 because i dont agree with your opinion

Him and Tickle are a pretty formidable partnership though.

You swallowed a Cullen Dictionary....WTF are you on about

No Cullen swallowed his dictionary,see you must be like me and watched many games with your own eyes and see what you see

I see what i see without using all this Bolloxs from Australia...if its a good tackle,its a good tackle..not because the ruck was slowed down enabling the D to get back and rush up from the PTB...THE BLOKE HAS HIT HIM WITH A GOOD TACKLE...whats all this leg speed as well...if he didnt have leg speed,he cant bloody run can he.

Sides will go into the tackle with the intention of holding the the ball carrier up untill the ref calls held and then they will take the ball carrier to the floor. Which makes the tackle take alot longer and gives the defence a longer rest in between tackles even though it is at the expense of a few yards after the initial collision.

Is that simple enough ?

no iv'e only been watching the game 30 years and don't understand what goes on

Was i talking to you ???

no, i was answering though

why you have a problem with that ???

Good god you dont half take everything personal dont ya

Fight fight fight

And if HF really wants to rile him up, all he has to do is slag off Tommy Lee

Some people are just being positive will a new season around the corner nobody has predicted a league and cup double!



I read hardly any mention of the returning Rich Horne, anything positive about our new Oz international or how Tom Briscoe is one of the most exciting youngsters the club has produced for a while. There are a number of things which I am genuinely looking forward to seeing from Hull next year (I also know we have failings before I get accused of rose tinted glasses.

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Hell, I remember looking forward to our 1996 season with a backline of Kitching, TV, Darren Carter, Terry Manning and Leigh Deakin - imagine the negativity on the boards back then if the Internet was around

couldn't have been put better, half of thses on here will have still been in nappies though

used to go to Workington expecting to get beat, thats bad

we will suprise a few next season

I too think we will be the dark(and white) horses. People forget that it was injuries that put paid to last season - not the quality of the squad. At the beginning of last season pundits all had us in the top 3 based on last year's squad on paper. Apart from the loss of Carvell, we've improved the squad since then.

So I for one am tentatively optimistic... and even if I wasn't I'd still be looking forward to the season

I agree, the second row is stronger, without the injuries we'll be top 4 imo. I think Dykes' was an awesome player, shame the gamble didn't pay off. Thormans no where near as good imo but hopefully he'll be a consistent starter and that in itself is better then someone playing 1 missing 2.

People also seem to forget that p[ii[/iss poor decision making and p[ii[/iss poor performances from the team in general lost us quite a few games too. This mindset tends to be exclusive to Hull FC fans.

Those are not the folk who the comment was aimed at. There's nowt wrong with a bit of healthy optimism (or even mad optimism), but some seem to feel that the slightest criticism is somehow out of order.


Me too.

I think you may find the 2 are actually related.

Well Thorman has only done rehab so far this off season, so will go into the season without a FULL pre season programme behind him and Raynor faces the possibility of a lengthy spell on the side lines with his toe problem. Washy has a knee injury so will have only had a trunkated pre season and Croker missed the world cup with broken ribs.

That is four key players that have not had ideal preparations for the new season. I think some Hull fans are right not to be too over optimistic for next season.

Just my opinion mind