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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"I'm not sure if your ageeing with me or not?........I'm saying that there was nothing wrong with it, those around me thought differently'"
Sorry, I was agreeing. There was nothing wrong with Tansey being taken into touch. The second part of my reply was meant in jest. |
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| Quote ="major black"icon_lol.gif people make me laugh who clearly are unsure about the rules and how to interpret them. Which is 99% of the fans, officials and players.
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You must feel smug being that 1% minority. |
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Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"The shouts of offside do my head in, esp when the ref is 14 meters away'"
Agreed.
Unfortunately at the next ptb he is 11m away, followed by 15m, 12m, 9m, 11m, 8m etc. Oh and the players advancing before the ball player has played the ball. Now if he was consistently 10m away that would make things nice and straightforward.
"Play-the-Ball
Every time a player is tackled, all defenders, apart from a maximum of two markers, have to retreat 10 metres from the play-the-ball area. This will be marked by the referee (in other words the defending side retire back to the referee). The defending side may advance when the ball is rolled back by the foot. If they move forward early, or don't retire far enough back, it's a penalty."
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As I have said elsewhere it would be much easier, especially for referees, if they simply applied the laws as they are written. That would remove lots of doubt. Hell - we even mark the pitch in 10m bits to help out with it. Unfortunately the refs have started disappearing up their own arris when it comes to "interpretation". The laws are simple and straightforward. Apply them would be my simple and straightforward advice. |
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Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"The shouts of offside do my head in, esp when the ref is 14 meters away'"
Agreed.
Unfortunately at the next ptb he is 11m away, followed by 15m, 12m, 9m, 11m, 8m etc. Oh and the players advancing before the ball player has played the ball. Now if he was consistently 10m away that would make things nice and straightforward.
"Play-the-Ball
Every time a player is tackled, all defenders, apart from a maximum of two markers, have to retreat 10 metres from the play-the-ball area. This will be marked by the referee (in other words the defending side retire back to the referee). The defending side may advance when the ball is rolled back by the foot. If they move forward early, or don't retire far enough back, it's a penalty."
www.rlef.eu.com/laws.php
As I have said elsewhere it would be much easier, especially for referees, if they simply applied the laws as they are written. That would remove lots of doubt. Hell - we even mark the pitch in 10m bits to help out with it. Unfortunately the refs have started disappearing up their own arris when it comes to "interpretation". The laws are simple and straightforward. Apply them would be my simple and straightforward advice. | |
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| Quote ="barton baird"You must feel smug being that 1% minority.'"
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I guess I'm one of these 'thick' fans as I was under the impression you can no longer "drag" a player into touch therefore it should have been a penalty.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I guess I'm one of these 'thick' fans as I was under the impression you can no longer "drag" a player into touch therefore it should have been a penalty.'"
Me too. |
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I guess I'm one of these 'thick' fans as I was under the impression you can no longer "drag" a player into touch therefore it should have been a penalty.'" You're not the only one. As soon as they started to drag him Thaler should of called held. Then if they carried on they should of been penalised. |
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I guess I'm one of these 'thick' fans as I was under the impression you can no longer "drag" a player into touch therefore it should have been a penalty.'"
Thats the way I read the new rule  |
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Me also. I thought you could push, but not drag.
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| You cant. At least you couldn't earlier in the season when Long was penalised for it. Maybe it's all been changed. Maybe there's been a new directive or summat.  |
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He should have given voluntary tackle on Tansey for me. How many times do refs miss the first obvious decission and then give a lesser offence at the very next oppotunity almost as if there making up for missing the first
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| Quote ="Faithful One"Nothing wrong with that. Surely Bradford should have had a penalty when Turner smashed Reardon into touch. Your no longer allowed to tackle players into touch are you?...'"
Made me smile when Smailes in the Mail claimed it as Manu who hit him into touch!!! |
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| I think the way he was letting them lay on last night everyone was aggressive and when it didn't go our way it went mental |
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"I think it's the inconsistency once again. Hull got penalised for a similar one a week or two ago, then no penalty was given last night. It's a stupid rule and one the players were clearly confused by as well.'" We did Long was trying to get out of the way The rules state you cannot PULL into touch and one of Bradfords player was pulling  |
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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"It really, really narks me sitting around supporters who have no idea about the rules
1. Tansey drops on a kick and doesnt get up, Bulls players stand over him without touching him, Tansey realises he is about to be penalised for a voluntary tackle and tries to get up, Bulls players drag him into touch, no problem........boooo!!
2. Calderwood injured, Luauki warms up and is ready to come on, knock on = scrum, people around me complaining that the ref wont let us make the sub even though you cant make a sub at a scrum.....boooo!!
If you are going to spend the money on a season pass, you would have thought that you would at least learn the rules.......rant over
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Long seemed to indicate to the ref that a defending player had touched Tansey when his ball carrying arm was in cotact with the ground. That would suggest to me that the tackle was complete... at least I think that's what the rules say (unless there's some clause about downward pressure or control of the player  ) |
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| Quote ="downtheante"Long seemed to indicate to the ref that a defending player had touched Tansey when his ball carrying arm was in cotact with the ground. That would suggest to me that the tackle was complete... at least I think that's what the rules say (unless there's some clause about downward pressure or control of the player
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Thats what i thought i saw from a different angle...Maybe i should of gone to spec savers.  |
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Thats what i thought i saw from a different angle...Maybe i should of gone to spec savers.
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that appears to be 99% of us |
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I guess I'm one of these 'thick' fans as I was under the impression you can no longer "drag" a player into touch therefore it should have been a penalty.'"
guess im one as well!!!  |
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| I agree with this thread. How dare new people who may not be as experinced with rugby league dare to come and watch my team. There should be some sort of test at the turnstile, and if you fail you can't come in. After all, playing in front of 2000 fans who know the game inside out would be much better |
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Would like to see the Tansey incident again. Granted I sit in the SW corner but, from where I sit, it looked as though they physically picked him up off the floor to get him in touch rather than pushed him.
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| I was listening on the radio and it looked like a penalty to Hull for me |
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| Quote ="Shirl"Would like to see the Tansey incident again. Granted I sit in the SW corner but, from where I sit, it looked as though they physically picked him up off the floor to get him in touch rather than pushed him.'"
They did pick him up, however the tackle wasn't complete. Tansey could have ran on. |
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With both feet off the floor?
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| Quote ="Shirl"With both feet off the floor?'"
Well he would have probably got further through the line than he did on Saturday |
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Well he would have probably got further through the line than he did on Saturday
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glad you noticed it too Wilf!, I have been saying this since I first saw him in B&W
runs one handed with the ball = nightmare waiting to happen
picks the ball up on the burst like kemble runs into the collision as if he is Paul Rose then stops immediately in front of the tackler and gets battered???
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