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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"How very true Standee
Do remember though, Rule said a coach wasnt that important
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Are you kidding? or is it a slight exageration?!
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"How very true Standee
Do remember though, Rule said a coach wasnt that important
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Well lets get rid then and be coachless.We certainly cannot do any worse.
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| Quote ="monkeyshoes"Are you kidding? or is it a slight exageration?!'"
It's been reported from various sources. I'm inclined to believe it's either true or close enough.
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| any links to back that one up would be interesting reading
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Interesting indeed however where in either of those does it say the quote from an earlier post that was then also quoted as being true " Rule said a coach wasnt that important "
cant find that bit in either
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Interesting indeed however where in either of those does it say the quote from an earlier post that was then also quoted as being true " Rule said a coach wasnt that important "
cant find that bit in either
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"Interesting indeed however where in either of those does it say the quote from an earlier post that was then also quoted as being true " Rule said a coach wasnt that important "
cant find that bit in either
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Oh but Expro why roll your eyes? You didn't ask for quotes you asked for links to backup what was being said. What better then than two prime examples of Rule implementing the very policy that he is thought to believe in.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"Interesting indeed however where in either of those does it say the quote from an earlier post that was then also quoted as being true " Rule said a coach wasnt that important "
cant find that bit in either
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Mrs B emailed the club,in 2010
This is her comments:
" I sent an e-mail into the Tell Us thing last year saying that with the salary cap evening up squad quality, the coach is a key differentiator and we should be looking at spending some of our profit on one because the way FC fans respond to a bit of success (eg shirt sales for Wembley 200icon_cool.gif would pay back the investment. [u The reply I got was that it was the players that were the differentiating factor and not the coach.[/u Given our recent appointments in the coaching area, I'd be amazed if it wasn't Moore on a one and a half year deal"
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Quote After five years with the Black and Whites, Hull FC is a club that means a lot to Agar which made his decision to put pen to paper on a contract extension even easier.
“This is our club, I have spent a long time here and have some great friends in an around the club, both on the staff and supporters as well and I think it is very much about the team,” Agar commented.
“I have always said that you are only as strong as your weakest link [uand I am[/u really happy that I have a very supporting and trusting coaching team around me and we will continue to work very hard. '"
"Richard, you are the weakest link. Good bye"
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Quote After five years with the Black and Whites, Hull FC is a club that means a lot to Agar which made his decision to put pen to paper on a contract extension even easier.
“This is our club, I have spent a long time here and have some great friends in an around the club, both on the staff and supporters as well and I think it is very much about the team,” Agar commented.
“I have always said that you are only as strong as your weakest link [uand I am[/u really happy that I have a very supporting and trusting coaching team around me and we will continue to work very hard. '"
"Richard, you are the weakest link. Good bye"
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| I havent read through all 15 pages of this thread so I may be repeating someone.
Noble won what he won at Bulls when the salary cap was being fiddled to the max by the Bulls . Their pack was amazing but when they trimmed their budget the pack had to leave to fit in the cap.
At Wigan he did nothing and they only stayed up when they broe the cap to sign Fielden or else they may have even gone down and he would have been described as the worst Wigan coach for 40 years.
WHY are we hoping Noble comes in ?????????????? safe pair of hands , that's all.
WE need a McGuire not a Noble , look what McGuire did with NOble's team !!!!!!!!!!!
Please , please no noble appts
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"I havent read through all 15 pages of this thread so I may be repeating someone.
Noble won what he won at Bulls when the salary cap was being fiddled to the max by the Bulls . Their pack was amazing but when they trimmed their budget the pack had to leave to fit in the cap.
At Wigan he did nothing and they only stayed up when they broe the cap to sign Fielden or else they may have even gone down and he would have been described as the worst Wigan coach for 40 years.
WHY are we hoping Noble comes in ?????????????? safe pair of hands , that's all.
WE need a McGuire not a Noble , look what McGuire did with NOble's team !!!!!!!!!!!
Please , please no noble appts'"
Do you trust rule and the club owners to sign the next mcguire? Last time they went to oz to sign a top class coach they came back with peter sharp
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| so what time are we all starting the agar out chants??
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"I havent read through all 15 pages of this thread so I may be repeating someone.
Noble won what he won at Bulls when the salary cap was being fiddled to the max by the Bulls . Their pack was amazing but when they trimmed their budget the pack had to leave to fit in the cap.
At Wigan he did nothing and they only stayed up when they broe the cap to sign Fielden or else they may have even gone down and he would have been described as the worst Wigan coach for 40 years.
WHY are we hoping Noble comes in ?????????????? safe pair of hands , that's all.
WE need a McGuire not a Noble , look what McGuire did with NOble's team !!!!!!!!!!!
Please , please no noble appts'"
Noble left Wigan on the verge of winning trophies and McGuire has credited Noble for the work he has done. Not saying Noble is perfect but i'd welcome his appointment.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Noble left Wigan on the verge of winning trophies and McGuire has credited Noble for the work he has done. Not saying Noble is perfect but i'd welcome his appointment.'"
on the verge isnt the same as winning them though is it
they need to seriously look for a decent coach instead of just appointing the first idiot that comes along for a change,then seriously change the team i`d keep a maximum of 6 players from the the current 1st team and rid the rest
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| Quote ="forevafaithful"on the verge isnt the same as winning them though is it
they need to seriously look for a decent coach instead of just appointing the first idiot that comes along for a change,then seriously change the team i`d keep a maximum of 6 players from the the current 1st team and rid the rest'"
'Idiot'? Noble is far from that and he's a 100 times more accomplished than our current coach. I think most people agree we'd prefer to get 'the next Maguire' but we recognise our board wouldn't be capable of finding/recruiting him so Noble is an obvious and solid choice.
As for the squad I disagree we need another major clear-out although Dowes, Washbrook, Horne, Long and Fitzgibbon will be/ need to be shown the door at the end of this season
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| Quote ="garry brindley"'Idiot'? Noble is far from that and he's a 100 times more accomplished than our current coach. I think most people agree we'd prefer to get 'the next Maguire' but we recognise our board wouldn't be capable of finding/recruiting him so Noble is an obvious and solid choice.
As for the squad I disagree we need another major clear-out although Dowes, Washbrook, Horne, Long and Fitzgibbon will be/ need to be shown the door at the end of this season'"
fitzy???? why??? because he`s "old"..he makes the young uns look like slouches
granted nobles no idiot but whats he done recently?????
he got 3 yrs to win wigan some silverware and couldnt manage that
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| Quote ="forevafaithful"fitzy???? why??? because he`s "old"..he makes the young uns look like slouches
granted nobles no idiot but whats he done recently?????
he got 3 yrs to win wigan some silverware and couldnt manage that'"
Fitzy because he's retiring.
What's Noble done recently? Well last year he put virtually a scratch team together at 2 or 3 weeks notice and miraculously got them to finish only 2 places behind the Hull FC side that Rich Agar had had 2 1/2 years to construct and refine. Noble's achievements at Wigan are being underplayed too, he saved them from relegation and then twice got them within a game of the GF, the second time it was only down to a bounce of a ball that they didn't get there. Now I agree with you that nearly winning something isn't the same as actually winning it, but if so many people are willing to give Agar credit because he once 'nearly' finished 4th then I think Noble deserves far more credit for what he did at Wigan.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Oh but Expro why roll your eyes? You didn't ask for quotes you asked for links to backup what was being said. What better then than two prime examples of Rule implementing the very policy that he is thought to believe in.'"
no if you had actually read my post properly you would have seen i asked for a link that that EXACT quote!!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Noble left Wigan on the verge of winning trophies and McGuire has credited Noble for the work he has done. Not saying Noble is perfect but i'd welcome his appointment.'"
Mcguire was quoted in the press as saying a "huge thank you to Nobby who has all but left me a ready to go squad able to hold their own against anyone, leaving me to concentrate on individual skills"
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"no if you had actually read my post properly you would have seen i asked for a link that that EXACT quote!!
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Oh I see, I ought to apologise then, let me just check what you said...
Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"any links to back that one up would be interesting reading
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Total requests for a link to a specific quote: 0
Total mentions of the word 'quote': 0
Oh.
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| Would anyone consider James Webster,or would you prefer an outsider to shake the place up abit?
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Fitzy because he's retiring.
What's Noble done recently? Well last year he put virtually a scratch team together at 2 or 3 weeks notice and miraculously got them to finish only 2 places behind the Hull FC side that Rich Agar had had 2 1/2 years to construct and refine. Noble's achievements at Wigan are being underplayed too, he saved them from relegation and then twice got them within a game of the GF, the second time it was only down to a bounce of a ball that they didn't get there. Now I agree with you that nearly winning something isn't the same as actually winning it, but if so many people are willing to give Agar credit because he once 'nearly' finished 4th then I think Noble deserves far more credit for what he did at Wigan.'"
A thing a lot of people say about Noble as well is that he inherited a good team at Bradford. Yes he did, however he kept that team at the top of the pile for a fair few years as well, bringing in new players as others went.
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| I wonder if fitz would be thought of by the board as a potential head coach?
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"I wonder if fitz would be thought of by the board as a potential head coach?'"
If he comes cheap he would be in with a good shout. Would not want him as coach though. We need an outsider coming in rather than someone who is already there.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"I wonder if fitz would be thought of by the board as a potential head coach?'"
I'd prefer that to Webster, but if the board appoint another rookie after Agar I really will despair at their ineptitude.
The whole coaching staff need clearing out in an ideal world, doubt we'll ever see it under this board though.
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