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| Quote ="simonhullfc"Saw more of them on Sunday than we have all season!
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We certainly were more willing to offload it than usual.
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| Quote :2h0eubvdBalearicHullFan Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject:
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Wollagong Way wrote: So who is the assistant then??!!!!
Please don't tell me Andy Last!?!?!?!
Well it would seem the natural choice.
In some ways, I'm quite pleased. Hull FC seem to be finally dumping the showmanship and are finally getting back to grass roots which has always done us proud in the past.
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We are not talking about West Hull or Skirlaugh here, we are talking about Hull FC for christ sake. How can Andy Last be an assistant coach :2h0eubvdat a top club:2h0eubvd so early in his career?!? I'd ask a similar question about Agar!
I have nothing against Rich or Andy, i wish them both well, i'm just truly concerned at the lack of experience both of them have in their new roles (if Lasty is the assistant). If anything i'd rather have an 'older head' for Richard Agar to be able to go to for advice etc.
I'd also like to add what the hell has this "young british coach" e got to do with anything? Since when does nationality come into when coaching an RL team effectively? Surely you look for the best option available at that time regardless of ethnicity! '"
What about Cummins at Leeds? Or Lowes at Wire? It happens all the time.
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| Very Dissapointed indeed, Maybe a change of coach, but no change in the boards lets do it on the cheap policy then. As for assistant its got to be James (i speak my own words and my minds my own) Rule..., Afterall he declared Michael Dobson not good enough......, from watching him after 1 game, its obvious from that, the man is a rugby talent spotting guru, along with the Other talent spotter who he went to Oz with.
But gotta give him a chance the board truly believe in him, and we know, they only have the clubs best interest at heart.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"What about Cummins at Leeds? Or Lowes at Wire? It happens all the time.'"
These two have been in the thick of it for years and have both played international rugby, with glittered careers. Last has not and has been an under 21 coach and thats it!
Agar appointment for me is underwhelming, Last as his number 2 would be suicide! Who'll coach the under 21s if Last gets the job, Arlie Bird?
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| Quote ="GM1" Who'll coach the under 21s if Last gets the job, Arlie Bird?'"
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Anyone else got any more pieces for this jigsaw
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| Quote ="GM1"These two have been in the thick of it for years and have both played international rugby, with glittered careers. Last has not and has been an under 21 coach and thats it!
Agar appointment for me is underwhelming, Last as his number 2 would be suicide! Who'll coach the under 21s if Last gets the job, Arlie Bird?'"
He'll be cheep!!
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| Quote PAUL M Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject:
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What about Cummins at Leeds? Or Lowes at Wire? It happens all the time.
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Err correct me if i'm wrong but Cummings and Lowes played a fair few more games than Lasty - therefore a little more experience. Additionally both have been assistant to either an experienced 1st team coach or international coach - none of which Agar is (at the moment).
The point(s) i'm trying to make are we are in danger of having little or no experience in the right positions at the club. Something that i believe isn't accpetable for a club our size.
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| right for all those people who are backing rich in his appointment he has asked me to put this on.
Im really excited by it,and could you pass my thanks back to all,the support ive had made it an easy decision,i appreciate it when people like you get behind me it makes a difference.
many thanks rich agar
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| Quote ="Ian P"Webster
Anyone else got any more pieces for this jigsaw'"
which piece you looking for ian
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| Quote ="wolfie"right for all those people who are backing rich in his appointment he has asked me to put this on.
Im really excited by it,and could you pass my thanks back to all,the support ive had made it an easy decision,i appreciate it when people like you get behind me it makes a difference.
many thanks rich agar'"
Well said Wolfie.
Think are lot of people are really under estimating RA's ability and RL knowledge, top bloke, get behind him.
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| Tremendous appointment !!
We have gone for the assistant of our two previous failed coaches...
You could not make it up, I would be looking for Jeremy Beadle hiding behind the bushes if the poor beggar hadnt carked it !
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| Quote simonhullfc Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject:
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Think are lot of people are really under estimating RA's ability and RL knowledge, top bloke, get behind him.
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I hope you are right and i hope Rich proves me wrong, afterall all i and every other fan want is for Hull to be challenging for honours consistenly.
Good luck Rich (but i'm still ed off with the board and underwhelmed)
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| Quote ="super sub terry day"Tremendous appointment !!
We have gone for the assistant of our two previous failed coaches...
You could not make it up, I would be looking for Jeremy Beadle hiding behind the bushes if the poor beggar hadnt carked it !'"
Isn't it Lisa Riley that does it now, or is that You've Been Framed? Either way I doubt they'd find a bush big enough to hide her behind!
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| Quote ="wolfie"right for all those people who are backing rich in his appointment he has asked me to put this on.
Im really excited by it,and could you pass my thanks back to all,the support ive had made it an easy decision,i appreciate it when people like you get behind me it makes a difference.
many thanks rich agar'"
Rich has also asked me and Wolfie to go on the backroom staff for strength,conditoning and dieatary advice aswell as we both have degree in eating takeaways
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Looking at players for next season?'"
You can do that with a £10 subscription to Setanta Sports.
I agree with 'our kid' KH & JR do not have enough RL savvy/clout/respect/know how/.
you keep holding on to the hope that we have signed players on the quiet, unfortunately I don't think that is so because in the real world especially in Oz secrets don't remain to be so for so long, its been nigh on 6 weeks now since they went, and nothing has come out as there isn't anything to come out.
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| Quote ="simonhullfc"Well said Wolfie.
Think are lot of people are really under estimating RA's ability and RL knowledge, top bloke, get behind him.'"
i never said it,agar did
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| Not posted on here for ages but i can't hold it back any longer!
I'm not impressed with the promoting an assistant to head coach tactic. In my mind, if team are performing badly then it isn't just the head coaches fault - its got to be down to the whole coaching staff otherwise whats the point of having an assistant in the first place? We should have had a new broom and swept the whole thing clean. Agar won't work, mark my words.
With the focus firmly on Hull City at the moment I was hoping for a big name coach to provide a bit of interest in Hull FC. Giving Agar the job, talking about getting back to grass roots and probably (though hopefully not) having a team at the bottom part of the league for the rest of the season, isn't going to make Rugby League in West Hull seem very exciting.
I've been a die-hard fan of FC for 13 years and I'm afraid the lack of interest and passion from the club as a whole has turned me off this year.
We have a lacklustre team that has no real quality at all. When Jamie Thackray, a player dumped by his previous 2 teams (one of which was FC!) stands out as the star performer, then i think we have problems.
I know there's been injuries but be honest with yourself - how many of our side would YOU keep if you were the coach? How many would get into - dare i say it??? - the Leeds Rhinos squad?
Not many.
Players such as Sing for instance - what has he ever done for us? Nothing. If he's injured he shouldn't be in the side. Dump him and promote a young kid who'll be eager to show his worth in the same way Houghton and Washbrook have. Kusack is nothing more than a Paul Mcnicholas clone - he does nothing either. And without wanting to bring it up again - we should never have got rid of Briscoe. Ever see him playing with a lack of passion in an FC shirt? Never!
Its sad to say but Rovers show more guts, more interest in the club and make much more of a statement to the Rugby League world at the moment.
Sack the board, dump the deadwood and get FC back to where the should be = about 10 places up the league and a million miles up from the depths that this club currently is.
Rant over.
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| Quote ="wolfie"i never said it,agar did
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TBH mate if we appointed Craig Bellamy some on here would still moan
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| Quote ="One man rugby"Players such as Sing for instance - what has he ever done for us? '"
Score more SL tries than any other Hull player last season?
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| Quote ="One man rugby"Not posted on here for ages but i can't hold it back any longer!
I'm not impressed with the promoting an assistant to head coach tactic. In my mind, if team are performing badly then it isn't just the head coaches fault - its got to be down to the whole coaching staff otherwise whats the point of having an assistant in the first place? We should have had a new broom and swept the whole thing clean. Agar won't work, mark my words.
With the focus firmly on Hull City at the moment I was hoping for a big name coach to provide a bit of interest in Hull FC. Giving Agar the job, talking about getting back to grass roots and probably (though hopefully not) having a team at the bottom part of the league for the rest of the season, isn't going to make Rugby League in West Hull seem very exciting.
I've been a die-hard fan of FC for 13 years and I'm afraid the lack of interest and passion from the club as a whole has turned me off this year.
We have a lacklustre team that has no real quality at all. When Jamie Thackray, a player dumped by his previous 2 teams (one of which was FC!) stands out as the star performer, then i think we have problems.
I know there's been injuries but be honest with yourself - how many of our side would YOU keep if you were the coach? How many would get into - dare i say it??? - the Leeds Rhinos squad?
Not many.
Players such as Sing for instance - what has he ever done for us? Nothing. If he's injured he shouldn't be in the side. Dump him and promote a young kid who'll be eager to show his worth in the same way Houghton and Washbrook have. Kusack is nothing more than a Paul Mcnicholas clone - he does nothing either. And without wanting to bring it up again - we should never have got rid of Briscoe. Ever see him playing with a lack of passion in an FC shirt? Never!
Its sad to say but Rovers show more guts, more interest in the club and make much more of a statement to the Rugby League world at the moment.
Sack the board, dump the deadwood and get FC back to where the should be = about 10 places up the league and a million miles up from the depths that this club currently is.
Rant over.'"
Is your real name suicidal sid
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| Quote ="wolfie"right for all those people who are backing rich in his appointment he has asked me to put this on.
Im really excited by it,and could you pass my thanks back to all,the support ive had made it an easy decision,i appreciate it when people like you get behind me it makes a difference.
many thanks rich agar'"
I think it's a bit unfait to suggest people aren't backing him. Just because some of us are a bit uncertain about the choice doesn't mean we don't want him to do well and think he has the potential to be a good head coach. We just view it as a very difficult situation for a coach to come into, particularly a relatively inexperienced one.
Why is it that so many of the issues on this board get painted as a black or white decision, you've either got to be 100% behind a decision or it's deemed that you're having a go? There is usually some middle ground.
As for what Agar said, I'm glad he's dedicated to the club and hope he is the man to help us climb the table and get us back challenging for honours next year. Good luck fella.
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