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| Quote ="Diablo1967"I've emailed the controller at Humberside about his totally inappropriate "fat bird" comment last night. Hope it gets him at least a warning.'"
Gwilym can be a numpty at times, but....really?
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Lloyd is far and away worse than Stevo. He can't get players names right, you have NO idea at all which area of the field we're in and often who has the ball!
I've emailed the controller at Humberside about his totally inappropriate "fat bird" comment last night. Hope it gets him at least a warning.'"
you've emailed the controller at Humberside because he called the fat woman off the Chase a fat bird???
FFS the worlds going mad, she is a fat bird so get over it.
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| The reality is that a full time rugby league editor at a public service broadcaster (and let's be honest there are probably stacks of aspiring journalists hoping one day for this sort of opportunity) should have the following characteristics:
A passion for the game
Equal enthusiasm levels for both the city's professional clubs
Encyclopedic knowledge of both clubs' players and academy prospects
Good in-depth knowledge of all Super League clubs and working knowledge of the NRL
Articulate commentary that allows the listener to visualise play as it happens, and judgement to support accurate and fair summaries
To me there's little evidence of the above amongst any of the RH commentary team. Obviously we'll forgive Murdock a bit for his lack of SL insight (he doesn't have Sky) because for years he's had to be the only member of the team without Rovers bias. The context of the coverage they now present is an editor who references calling Neil Hudgell regularly at home of an evening and opens apologetic post match interviews with Craig Sandercock with "well it never rains but it pours" and regularly cites the fact that Sandercock has never had every member of his squad fit at the same time. Like he's unique in this respect. The two "expert summarisers" are an ex Rovers player who starts every sentence with "d'you know" and another who uses social media to accuse FC's board of feeding fans "horse s**t".
If this is the best, most articulate and insightful reportage set-up available from the BBC with appropriate balance of enthusiasm and critique, I'd be surprised. The comments made about the woman off The Chase are poor; I didn't know who she was but judging by her picture her BMI's about 1.2 points lower than Weyman's for starters.
Before I get accused of only seeing what I want in local media, I'll say again that in my view the HDM are pro FC and some of their articles, like the one about Miller's ecstasy on getting his visa, are so OTT it's a bit weird.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The reality is that a full time rugby league editor at a public service broadcaster (and let's be honest there are probably stacks of aspiring journalists hoping one day for this sort of opportunity) should have the following characteristics:
A passion for the game
Equal enthusiasm levels for both the city's professional clubs
Encyclopedic knowledge of both clubs' players and academy prospects
Good in-depth knowledge of all Super League clubs and working knowledge of the NRL
Articulate commentary that allows the listener to visualise play as it happens, and judgement to support accurate and fair summaries
To me there's little evidence of the above amongst any of the RH commentary team. Obviously we'll forgive Murdock a bit for his lack of SL insight (he doesn't have Sky) because for years he's had to be the only member of the team without Rovers bias. The context of the coverage they now present is an editor who references calling Neil Hudgell regularly at home of an evening and opens apologetic post match interviews with Craig Sandercock with "well it never rains but it pours" and regularly cites the fact that Sandercock has never had every member of his squad fit at the same time. Like he's unique in this respect. The two "expert summarisers" are an ex Rovers player who starts every sentence with "d'you know" and another who uses social media to accuse FC's board of feeding fans "horse s**t".
If this is the best, most articulate and insightful reportage set-up available from the BBC with appropriate balance of enthusiasm and critique, I'd be surprised. The comments made about the woman off The Chase are poor; I didn't know who she was but judging by her picture her BMI's about 1.2 points lower than Weyman's for starters.
Before I get accused of only seeing what I want in local media, I'll say again that in my view the HDM are pro FC and some of their articles, like the one about Miller's ecstasy on getting his visa, are so OTT it's a bit weird.'"
is that why grudgell is taking over HDM building with sponsor boards!
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| Quote ="Holty"is that why grudgell is taking over HDM building with sponsor boards!'"
I didn't think that was actually HDM's building anymore. I thought Hudgell has taken it over for his business?
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| Quote ="Hasbag"I didn't think that was actually HDM's building anymore. I thought Hudgell has taken it over for his business?'"
theres still one HDM sign to go with Grudgells 100
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| Let's hope it's a long afternoon for him today and we get to hear him mumble his way through try after try for Huddersfield,lol
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The reality is that a full time rugby league editor at a public service broadcaster (and let's be honest there are probably stacks of aspiring journalists hoping one day for this sort of opportunity) should have the following characteristics:
A passion for the game
Equal enthusiasm levels for both the city's professional clubs
Encyclopedic knowledge of both clubs' players and academy prospects
Good in-depth knowledge of all Super League clubs and working knowledge of the NRL
Articulate commentary that allows the listener to visualise play as it happens, and judgement to support accurate and fair summaries
To me there's little evidence of the above amongst any of the RH commentary team. Obviously we'll forgive Murdock a bit for his lack of SL insight (he doesn't have Sky) because for years he's had to be the only member of the team without Rovers bias. The context of the coverage they now present is an editor who references calling Neil Hudgell regularly at home of an evening and opens apologetic post match interviews with Craig Sandercock with "well it never rains but it pours" and regularly cites the fact that Sandercock has never had every member of his squad fit at the same time. Like he's unique in this respect. The two "expert summarisers" are an ex Rovers player who starts every sentence with "d'you know" and another who uses social media to accuse FC's board of feeding fans "horse s**t".
If this is the best, most articulate and insightful reportage set-up available from the BBC with appropriate balance of enthusiasm and critique, I'd be surprised. The comments made about the woman off The Chase are poor; I didn't know who she was but judging by her picture her BMI's about 1.2 points lower than Weyman's for starters.
Before I get accused of only seeing what I want in local media, I'll say again that in my view the HDM are pro FC and some of their articles, like the one about Miller's ecstasy on getting his visa, are so OTT it's a bit weird.'"
I completely agree with the OP about Lloyd being an atrocious radio broadcaster who paints a very poor picture of any game he watches, to the point you don't know where the ball is or who's got it.
As for the rest of the drivel, give your head a bang will you and stop being so paranoid, Humberside may have its faults but at least it gives RL coverage that is far superior to any other radio station I've listened to, try listeing to radio Leeds during a game and see how many times it cuts away for something more important. Same old FC always need to be the victims......
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| Quote ="barham red"I completely agree with the OP about Lloyd being an atrocious radio broadcaster who paints a very poor picture of any game he watches, to the point you don't know where the ball is or who's got it.
As for the rest of the drivel, give your head a bang will you and stop being so paranoid, Humberside may have its faults but at least it gives RL coverage that is far superior to any other radio station I've listened to, try listeing to radio Leeds during a game and see how many times it cuts away for something more important. Same old FC always need to be the victims......'"
It's not paranoia, did you miss my point about the HDM being the other end of the spectrum? The amount of hours RH gives to rugby league is exceptional, in a good way, compared to both West Yorkshire and Lancashire/Cheshire. I've never said otherwise, have I? It's not relevant to the point I was making.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"It's not paranoia, did you miss my point about the HDM being the other end of the spectrum? The amount of hours RH gives to rugby league is exceptional, in a good way, compared to both West Yorkshire and Lancashire/Cheshire. I've never said otherwise, have I? It's not relevant to the point I was making.'"
Ok then, listening from a HKR point of view, which I will have to endure this afternoon, I don't hear as overt a bias as a lot of FC fans seem to think there is. Lloyd I'll admit favours us but I don't see that as a positive as his commentary is so poor, the rest will favour which ever Hull team is playing.
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| No doubt we will get a replay of Hull FC v Saints tonight then to help the Dobbins swallow that bitterness in their mouths
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| Quote ="hull_lad01"No doubt we will get a replay of Hull FC v Saints tonight then to help the Dobbins swallow that bitterness in their mouths'"
Bit premature with that one hull lad
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| Quote ="barham red"Ok then, listening from a HKR point of view, which I will have to endure this afternoon, I don't hear as overt a bias as a lot of FC fans seem to think there is. Lloyd I'll admit favours us but I don't see that as a positive as his commentary is so poor, the rest will favour which ever Hull team is playing.'"
Right. I bet there wasn't a cosy post match interview with Hudgell (does he ever come on for free PR after a loss?).
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Lloyd is far and away worse than Stevo. He can't get players names right, you have NO idea at all which area of the field we're in and often who has the ball!
I've emailed the controller at Humberside about his totally inappropriate "fat bird" comment last night. Hope it gets him at least a warning.'"
How sad !!
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| Quote ="hull_lad01"No doubt we will get a replay of Hull FC v Saints tonight then to help the Dobbins swallow that bitterness in their mouths'"
What bitterness is that
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| Quote ="clockwork mouse"How sad !!'"
Really? In what way?
Was it really much different to Burns' remark about "Smack my bitch up" that got him moved to the housewifes hour in a morning? I'd be happy with Lloyd removed from all Hull FC commentary duties.
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Really? In what way?
Was it really much different to Burns' remark about "Smack my bitch up" that got him moved to the housewifes hour in a morning? I'd be happy with Lloyd removed from all Hull FC commentary duties.'"
Didn't Burns get shifted out after another remark he made about. FC a few seasons ago.you want to hear him and Peter Swann doing city sorry..tigers matches.......both terrible.
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| No thanks. Anything to do with the Tiggers leaves me cold.
I'd rather listen to wire-brushes on blackboards.
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| Lets get back to the days of the totally unbiased David Doyle Davidson he ever so slighty favoured Hull fc if I remember rightly
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| Quote ="bishops finger"you've emailed the controller at Humberside because he called the fat woman off the Chase a fat bird???
FFS the worlds going mad, she is a fat bird so get over it.'"
why are we not surprised that you're totally disrespectful!
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Lets get back to the days of the totally unbiased David Doyle Davidson he ever so slighty favoured Hull fc if I remember rightly'"
Hated his commentary. Absolutely awful. "You're missing nothing".
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Hated his commentary. Absolutely awful. "You're missing nothing".'"
Indeed, his constant reference to how tall players were and which amateur club they played for also annoyed me. Was given 5 years longer than he should have been, The Gollum is just a first class moron.
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| I believe Gwilym said at one point on Friday night (around the time he started talking about Bradley Walsh) something like "You don't just get rugby commentary, you get an education"...
Personally I just thought we got drivel.
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| Quote ="Doc Brown"I believe Gwilym said at one point on Friday night (around the time he started talking about Bradley Walsh) something like "You don't just get rugby commentary, you get an education"...
Personally I just thought we got drivel.'"
On the positive side you did get education, it was not to listen to his ramblings.
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| Quote ="barton baird"On the positive side you did get education, it was not to listen to his ramblings.'"
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