I'd rather have a halfback who wouldn't be blowing for a tug after 10 minutes.

You do realise that rubbish like this just makes you look daft, don't you?

I'm sure he'll be fine. He'll have 3 months of conditioning before the season starts and won't even be in the first team if we have no injuries

His weight is not a concern for me, he will lose any excess during pre-season but is a naturally big lad anyway. It's a big step up for him in terms of class, intensity, speed and fitness so it will be tough but he has experienced this with Saints so he will know what to expect.

Needs to work on his defence.

Look at how fat Moa was on his debut against Bradford...now look at him, he's a muscle machine!!!!

He will soon be in shape at FC, great talent in him already, raw but can see his quality

Or Andy Gregory!!! lets not go there again

He's fat, he's round, he's worth a milion pound, Gary Pearce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In current terms Lee Briers isn't exactly svelte.

He was one of the best players on the park when we played Catalans in the cup earlier in the season and the Championship is a lot more intensive that people sometimes give credit for so I've no concerns about him playing in SL next season, especially with a full-time pre season behind him.

Well if he is a ''project'' like Moa was when he first arrived,we have nothing to worry about.

whats the massive fuss about his weight people talk about him as though hes jarrod hickey, ellis has always been quite big and has a big upper body frame, i feel as though hes just bulked up abit to much upper body whilst been out with a knee injury but with a good pre season and FULL TIME training i have no doubts he will be in great shape and the fact that he is quite big lets him draw defenders to him which could create space out wide like numerous times last night. for me cant wait to see ellis develop with us potentailly could be a very good player for us proper halfback that kicks well and gets in at first reciever and orginisers well.

There is no 'massive fuss'. There are differing opinions on how close to SL fitness he looks.

so why dont people actually talk about how he played well last night and he kicked a 40 20 which if he can replicate that for us then he will be already a success

I think some people just like to be miserable!

People have talked about how well he played. They then moved on to other points of interest.

You do realise that we've kicked 40/20's ourselves. He's a player with real potential, but one or two people seem to be going a tad OTT. I doubt he'll figure much next season apart from injury cover.

OTT? Like implying he'll be blowing for a tug after 10 minutes! Is that the kind off OTT you mean?

We have'nt this season!

If he was to run out for an SL game next week, how long do you reckon he'd last?

In last nights game his involvement for a halfback was minimal. He's definitely not fit enough for SL, and he really needs to get his hands on the ball more. His short range kicking was impressive, although I don't think we have the wingers to exploit his high kicks to the corners. I hope he kicks many 40/20's for us, although he'll have a lot less time to execute the kick in Super League. All in all he's adequate back up, and let's hope he has the same amount of improvement in him that Moa has had.

He played 80 minutes against Catalans in the cup, but the point remains that he won't be playing in SL next week, he will only be playing in SL once he's had a pre-season under his belt, and a full-time one at that.

His involvement was minimal, but Leigh keep the ball tight around the ruck when they are in their own half. Robbie Paul and the other hooker control the play in their own half and let the halves have it when they get up the other end.

I know. And at no point have I even hinted that I don't think he can make the step up, just that it [iis[/i a big step and he'll have to work hard in the off-season to be ready.

Just to be clear - I'm very happy that we've signed him and I look forward to him developing into a fine player for us in the future. I'm just not expecting him to be ready to lead us round the park from day one next season.

Fair enough. I understand the concerns about his conditioning but he's got bags of talent so no need to worry on that front, although I certainly think he benefits from our style of play of not relying on our half backs to dig us out of a hole too often.

He'll fit right in at our place then. We haven't been able to rely on our half backs for over 4 years now.