Internationals released by the top clubs, with previous issues?

I'm sure widnes would have been desperate for him

Maybe it's an affordability issue then?

I just think we'll be paying the going rate for him. He could have got it elsewhere so there's no reason to think he'll be travelling right across the country 3 or 4 times a week for less than he could have got on his doorstep

Well, he's a former international, 30 years old, and has previous, so I'd hope the deal is in FC's favour.

Hull, Wakey, Titans and Roosters I heard.

I guess you've got no more evidence of that than Droolers?

I'm sure you'll be confident of that with your knowledge of our board

Are win bonuses counted in the cap?

AFAIK yes, any renumeration counts.

So, maybe we haven't trouble the Challenge Cup in recent years as we'd break the cap if we won it?

I heard Titans - they are after 2 new centres - just got Idris, and Gleeson going would have meant saving money as Champion will cost them a lot

Yes, that's why we never get anywhere near it

Win bonuses are included but any prize money the club wins from finishing position SL or Challenge cup, can be shared out to the players and this doesn't count on the cap

You certain of that?

5.7 The following items may be excluded in the calculation of the Salary Cap Value of a
Player:
Prize Money
5.7.1 the Gross value of any of the following payments that may Accrue to the
Player during the Salary Cap Year:
(a) any share of the official prize money paid by the RFL to the Club as a
result of the Club’s performance in the Super League competition
(provided that full details of such prize money bonuses are submitted
to the RSCM at the time that the Player’s playing contract is
submitted);
(b) any share of the official prize money paid by the RFL to the Club as a
result of the Club’s performance in the Challenge Cup competition
(provided that full details of such prize money bonuses are submitted
to the RSCM at the time that the Player’s playing contract is
submitted); and/or
(c) any share of the official prize money paid by the RFL to the Club as a
result of the Club’s performance in the World Club Challenge
competition (provided that full details of such prize money bonuses
are submitted to the RSCM as soon as reasonably practicable and in
any event no later than seven days prior to the World Club Challenge
competition).

thanks, I couldn't find it.

Yeah, the £100k prize money can be shared between the players

Yep, cup and SL winners get "extra cap" to pay bonus'

Was changed a few years ago after a couple of clubs went over the cap because of prize money IIRC. Makes sense as there's no way to budget for things like that.

Win bonuses have to be figured in from the start, so in theory a club that uses them heavily could end up spending well below cap at the end of a poor season even though they were nominally at full cap when the season started.

So we started poorly and found some money for Gleeson.

Mystery solved.

If the club really are that tight at the Cap presumably Hull could have Gleeson playing this season for a small amount and backload some extra money into the second year of his contract?

Easily RBA, some people on here have agendas against every club, even the one they support.

Are you a rocket scientist or brain surgeon?

There never was a mystery, just tinfoil hats and agendas.

they could follow FC's example from 05 and let them share just a part of it