coaches responsibility to coach players to wrap the man and ball up in the tackle!

McLennan
Maguire
Brown
Smith

or

Cullen
Calland
Harrison
Powell

Which group represents Agar's calibre best?

In 4 months Wigan have mastered this to perfection!!

And........... with the same squad of players as last year!!

Must have been the coach was YET AGAIN was unable to motivate the players. Where is our quick ptb's? Why don't we fight to get to our feet quicker? Why don't we offload more? Why don't we support the man with the ball? Where are our runners? Where is our desire?

Do the players have to take some blame, YES! However Agar is not and never will be the right man for the job.

Even with a poor run of results you will still have Agar for at least another year.

If top class rugby league players need coaching that then they maybe should consider a different career!!!!!

The players know what they are supposed to do, they just didn't do it



The coach can coach them all he likes but has absolutely no control on players actions/performance once they are on the park.

He was all to exuberant at the start of the season ...wasn't he?

We know!

I totally agree. Agar may be a little out of his depth but it's the players that play. Some of them simply are not good enough

We sign players who have international quality,
and yet the coach has only experience at best- amateur level.

Would you get the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd,
employing a coach from Accrington Stanley???

Don't know, I missed the first 6 games of the season, i was abroad.

The preparation , team selection ,game plan , tactics and set plays are his remit though.
There seems to be quite a few posters questioning his ability to cover these fundamentals.

I would suggest that most of the posters have no idea what goes on behind closed doors at training/in the changing room/in preperation etc etc, but it is incredibly easy to blame the coach. We lost the last 2 games to Leeds because the players failed to tackle the opposition adequately enough to stop them unloading and/or continuing down fthe field.

Agar does not fill me with confidence or inspire me either but the players must take some responsibility too.

1 tick
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This argument keeps coming back, and quite frankly it doesn't wash and is actually starting to get more than just a bit irritating. The majority of our squad (including today) have shown in the past and still in glimpses now that they definitely ARE good enough. Now, 1 or 2 being past their best is realistic, but for almost an entire squad of players to have slumped to playing below the level they are capable of points to one thing, and one thing only: The coach they are now playing for cannot get the best out of them. There's only one logical course of action, and handing out a 2-year contract extension is not it.

You should be coach.

And we don't need to, match day is the bottom line. If we aren't up for it on matchdays, the coach is not doing his job, no excuses. Do you think if Saints/Leeds trained great for 5 days but played abjectly every weekend Potter/McLennan would keep their jobs?

Wigan have the [usame [/usquad of players as last season.

What's the fundamental reason, for their dramatic change in attitude,and playing style???

As the legend Jack Gibson once said

"Winning starts on Mondays"

Was it Agar who said losing starts on Fri/Sat/Sun (Delete where applicableicon_wink.gif)

I disagree I thought the 2 Aussie boys were solid. They cant produce miracles. Manu was awesome. Houghton made some good runs - however.
As soon as O'Meley went off we lost any go forward and aggression. Replacements are meant to provide impact yet Agar opts for Cusack and Dowes. 20 mins in and the game went. Leeds simply powered through our pack. Dowes and Cusack have no impact. They never bust a tackle. Moa at least takes stopping and battles for a fast play the ball. However as our best forward last 2 weeks - inevitably dropped.

Long - why the build up - named in the squad - given until the last minute to play blah blah blah.
Simply past it. Reason why Saints only offered a one year deal. And Richard Horne so static when he recieves the ball. Burrow should him how a scrum half runs the line.

We'll make the 8 but out first round - This for 15,000 avg fans.

Class ground, Loyal fans, 2nd rate coach

Ever considered that he actually might be?

But that's the whole point, this is 'his team', these are 'his players'.

Can we keep this thread a a sticky? Let's face it, it will save a new thread been set up every week for the next 2 and a half years!