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| Quote ="Hull White Star"My parents friends voted for them in the last European election, asked why they answered cos they are sick of the 3 main stream parties and wanted someone different in. One of them then went on to have a life saving operation by a non British Surgeon, oh the irony
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Thats the tack I'd like to take with Nick Griffin, I'd start asking about the "foreigners" that are serving Queen and Country in our Armed Forces, then about the "Foreigners" that staff our hospitals and nursing homes.
He's just a racist bigot.
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| Quote ="Standee"Thats the tack I'd like to take with Nick Griffin, I'd start asking about the "foreigners" that are serving Queen and Country in our Armed Forces, then about the "Foreigners" that staff our hospitals and nursing homes.
He's just a racist bigot.'"
Wonder what he thinks of the gurkas?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Wonder what he thinks of the gurkas?'"
Probably doesn't like them on his McDonalds!!!
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| Quote ="Standee"It would be interesting to see them pushed on wider policy issues, racist bigotry is all well and good as an immigration policy, but it wont reform the NHS (well, the immigration policy would mean we're a few thousand doctors, nurses, porters, cleaners short (to name but a few)
You are quite right on that one Standee. I looked at their policies to make my own mind up and not rely on what I read in papers and went straight to the NHS section what with my health issues and all. I was expecting the usual from the parties like where they will be making savings and how they will get waiting lists down etc etc. Their policy on the NHS is to send all foreign NHS workers "home" and recruit British Doctors, British Nurses, British porters, I nearly fell off my chair laughing, not out of disrespect but on how naive and bigoted and stupid they really are, the NHS would virtually collapse. I don't care what race, colour, nationality, creed, sexual orientation my surgeon is, as long as he can put me in two new hips and give me the quality of care I need then thats all right with me.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"You are quite right on that one Standee. I looked at their policies to make my own mind up and not rely on what I read in papers and went straight to the NHS section what with my health issues and all. I was expecting the usual from the parties like where they will be making savings and how they will get waiting lists down etc etc. Their policy on the NHS is to send all foreign NHS workers "home" and recruit British Doctors, British Nurses, British porters, I nearly fell off my chair laughing, not out of disrespect but on how naive and bigoted and stupid they really are, the NHS would virtually collapse. I don't care what race, colour, nationality, creed, sexual orientation my surgeon is, as long as he can put me in two new hips and give me the quality of care I need then thats all right with me.'"
The problem being that theres a real risk that some people will read that and believe it could ever happening without have the forsight to think about the risks and issues associated with it.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"Quote ="Standee"It would be interesting to see them pushed on wider policy issues, racist bigotry is all well and good as an immigration policy, but it wont reform the NHS (well, the immigration policy would mean we're a few thousand doctors, nurses, porters, cleaners short (to name but a few)
You are quite right on that one Standee. I looked at their policies to make my own mind up and not rely on what I read in papers and went straight to the NHS section what with my health issues and all. I was expecting the usual from the parties like where they will be making savings and how they will get waiting lists down etc etc. Their policy on the NHS is to send all foreign NHS workers "home" and recruit British Doctors, British Nurses, British porters, I nearly fell off my chair laughing, not out of disrespect but on how naive and bigoted and stupid they really are, the NHS would virtually collapse. I don't care what race, colour, nationality, creed, sexual orientation my surgeon is, as long as he can put me in two new hips and give me the quality of care I need then thats all right with me.'" '"
I was really glad when I saw cod'ead had posted the link, I'd read it before (all of it) to give me opinions some basis when I had a long debate with a group of people about the BNP but reading it again just makes you laugh, I am no fan of any political party, but this lot really are not an option, at ANY level.
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| Quote ="Standee"And that is a real problem, they are now a "legitimate" protest vote, people are sick of Labour, the Tories have no real credible policies and the Liberal Democrats couldn't be trusted to run your local Parish Council, let alone the contry.
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Don't agree with this. They are not a legitimate protest vote unless you're a racist. If you want to give the three main parties the finger you could vote Green, Miss UK or Monster Raving Loony if you want to. If you vote BNP you are doing so for one reason and one reason only - because you are knuckle-dragging scum.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Don't agree with this. They are not a legitimate protest vote unless you're a racist. If you want to give the three main parties the finger you could vote Green, Miss UK or Monster Raving Loony if you want to. If you vote BNP you are doing so for one reason and one reason only - you are knuckle-dragging scum.'"
Oh I agree, I am talking about the perception of the party by the average Sun/Daily Mail "reader".
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| Quote ="Rock God X" If you vote BNP you are doing so for one reason and one reason only - you are knuckle-dragging scum.'"
Or just dumb. A lot of dumb people see the BNP stuff and think 'white britain' is the answer because they believe the spin.
Doesnt mean people are racist, just that they are dumb and easily lead in some instances.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Or just dumb. A lot of dumb people see the BNP stuff and think 'white britain' is the answer because they believe the spin.
Doesnt mean people are racist, just that they are dumb and easily lead in some instances.'"
Dumb is too mild an adjective.
Terminally, thick-as-a-plank stupid may be more apt. Especially given that the vast majority of those supporting the BNP would struggle to read the manifesto, let alone comprehend the garbage it contains.
What are the odds on the BNP producing a Dandy/Beano or even Razzle style of pamphlet, just to better connect with their core support?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"
What are the odds on the BNP producing a Dandy/Beano or even Razzle style of pamphlet, just to better connect with their core support?'"
Giving away free white hoods!
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| Quote ="Rock God X"You'd have to be beyond stupid not to know what they stand for at least.'"
Theres plenty of them out there mate.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I'm not sure stupidity is an adequate excuse. I've had a BNP leaflet through my door and it was laughably transparent. It might as well have said "Vote BNP or get raped and killed in your own bed by a knife-wielding darky". You'd have to be beyond stupid not to know what they stand for at least.'"
The BNP's European Election leaflet was outed as being a complete fraud (as is the party itself, of course). The pictures of an elderly couple, three blue collar workers and a doctor were taken from an international photo agency and nobody featured on the leaflet were even British.
I posted mine back to them with a note telling them to stick their racist filth up their .
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"The BNP's European Election leaflet was outed as being a complete fraud (as is the party itself, of course). The pictures of an elderly couple, three blue collar workers and a doctor were taken from an international photo agency and nobody featured on the leaflet were even British.
I posted mine back to them with a note telling them to stick their racist filth up their booty.'"
IIRC the spitfire that featured on it was flown by a polish imigrant/refugee aswell.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"How tempting would it be to tell the producers you want to ask a question like this, then wait for the cameras to roll before standing up and saying:
"So, Mr Griffin, how come you're such an enormous bell end?"'"
I went to Questiontime in Hull last Thursday - You ask a question by Email when receiving your invitation - and when you go in on the night are invited to fill in a card with another 'topical question' not a chance of a controversial question to begin with. Of course you can put your hand up and hope that DD spots you but if your Topic is not one of the Topics of the night you aint got a chance. That said by God am I looking forward to Thusday Mr Griffin will certainly be the 'Topic' Lets hope there is an audience to take him on
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| Quote ="kathy kirk"Lets hope there is an audience to take him on'"
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| Quote ="barton baird"Gawd what a bunch of grade A wayne kerrs they were /are.'"
Very much are!! Just more secretive now than they used to be.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"They're volunteering as we speak
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Damn they are supporting the posties
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"But does anyone really want this country to be flooded by 60,000,000 Turks because thats what labour wants?
Thats what their leaflet said anyway.
The only people that actually believe the complete poop that Griffin and co spout, are the people who are on the dole, think that the world owes them a living, and think it's easy to blame foreigners than it is to get off their backsides and get a job. I'm sorry, but if someone really needs a job and has the drive to do well, they will find something sooner or later. Anyone who can't is either stupid or lazy.
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I'm on the dole now, have been for 2 weeks, I'm certainly not lazy and I'm certainly not stupid. I find your comments highly offensive. You don't know how difficult it is to get work, there's nothing around and I have even tried supermarkets but I'm a skilled man and don't see why I should give up my skill. My last job was working in the east riding on a BP site but the contract has now ended. I'd like to know what you do, do you work for the corpy or something similar? Do you have a skill or do you push pens for a living. People may take offence at the influx of foreign workers, there is no need to have so many employed over here when there are so many British workers out of work, they're just lowering our wages and therefore our standard of living. They don't work any harder and are no better than British workers, they just cost less. This doesn't help the economy, just the companies that employ them, they still charge the same ammount for their work but pay the (mainly) Eastern Europeans less than the going rate so they just make bigger profits. Hope you are out of work soon, I really do. Don't think you'll believe all on benefit are bone idle & stupid then. BTW I probably start in Kent or Scotland next week
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Re-read his post. I think you've misinterpreted what he said.
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