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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Its no coincidence when Thackray left Lee was acting more professsionl and now he is back, he has fallen into his old habits.'"
His effect on other players in the squad was my main concern when we re-signed Thackray.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"His effect on other players in the squad was my main concern when we re-signed Thackray.'"
So why dont we cut our losses and pay him off now for the rest of the season instead of tolerating him being around?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"So why dont we cut our losses and pay him off now for the rest of the season instead of tolerating him being around?'"
You seem to have mistaken me for Agar
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Maybe so, maybe not. Wouldnt be my first choice and thats what this chat forum is all about isnt it?'"
Can't believe you'd have Tommy Lee over Berrigan. Berrigan is one of the best hookers in the league, both years he's had no number 7 to work with and has played behind the worst pack in the league.
It's clear you don't rate Berrigan as you gave him a 6 in your player ratings for Saturday stating 'He's not a 7' despite him landing a 40/20 and generally looking like one of our most dangerous players on the pitch.
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| Quote ="Standee"FFS
Will all the people who doubt that there is club together and get a bus to The Weir Bar in Hessle tonight and see for themsleves.'"
Would someone film it for me? I won't be able to get there until next week.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"He is world class we cant deny that, however i can count on one hand the glimpses of world class he has shown in an FC shirt over 2 season..'"
Based on NRL form, yes. Based on SL form, no. For whatever reasons he hasnt performed to the high standard he set himself.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Maybe so, maybe not. Wouldnt be my first choice and thats what this chat forum is all about isnt it?'"
sure is big D
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| Any we can have? The ones you've given us so far are doing alright.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Can't believe you'd have Tommy Lee over Berrigan. Berrigan is one of the best hookers in the league, both years he's had no number 7 to work with and has played behind the worst pack in the league.
It's clear you don't rate Berrigan as you gave him a 6 in your player ratings for Saturday stating 'He's not a 7' despite him landing a 40/20 and generally looking like one of our most dangerous players on the pitch.'"
On current form yes i'd have TL over Berro as reputation counts for nothing in my book.
I do rate Berro so you misunderstand me, i just dont hold him like some kind of god on a pedestal without him proving it to me week in and week out at my club.
Yes i gave him a 6 on Saturday as i watched the game a few times on DVD and havent really seen anything from him (or Horney) to say that our halves were great. We played well because of the offload game not the link of our halfbacks.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Based on NRL form, yes. Based on SL form, no. For whatever reasons he hasnt performed to the high standard he set himself.'"
must have something to do with playing at the broncos' ie :champs and then at fc ie:chumps..
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Based on NRL form, yes. Based on SL form, no. For whatever reasons he hasnt performed to the high standard he set himself.'"
And thats the point im trying to get some of the blinkered FC fans on here to realise!
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Well I dont like to brag you know
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"must have something to do with playing at the broncos' ie :champs and then at fc ie:chumps..'"
By those standards surely a champion player should still look a champion player in a team of chumps then rather than simply looking like another chump like he has done?
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"must have something to do with playing at the broncos' ie :champs and then at fc ie:chumps..'"
Could well be, your game always improves with better players around you. If his game doesnt improve with next years pack surrounding him, then maybe he is just another average Aussie.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"And thats the point im trying to get some of the blinkered FC fans on here to realise!'"
I don't doubt that he hasn't lived up to the hype however to suggest Tommy Lee is playing better then him is something I disagree with. Tommy Lee did nothing on Saturday apart from put in the worst kick of the game. Berro put in the best kick of the game and put in some decent kicks, he also took on the line quite well too.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"I don't doubt that he hasn't lived up to the hype however to suggest Tommy Lee is playing better then him is something I disagree with. Tommy Lee did nothing on Saturday apart from put in the worst kick of the game. Berro put in the best kick of the game and put in some decent kicks, he also took on the line quite well too.'"
Yes on Saturday. What about the previous 15 or 20 games this season to build up a more rounded and consistent picture?
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Can't believe you'd have Tommy Lee over Berrigan. Berrigan is one of the best hookers in the league, both years he's had no number 7 to work with and has played behind the worst pack in the league.
It's clear you don't rate Berrigan as you gave him a 6 in your player ratings for Saturday stating 'He's not a 7' despite him landing a 40/20 and generally looking like one of our most dangerous players on the pitch.'"
He must be on drugs. Berrigan is quality and if he had been at Leeds, Saints or another top 6 club he would be pushing for MOS. Even when you are $hite he shines through and thats out of position most of the time.
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| Quote ="rover49"He must be on drugs. Berrigan is quality and if he had been at Leeds, Saints or another top 6 club he would be pushing for MOS. Even when you are $hite he shines through and thats out of position most of the time.'"
In the limited games youve seen him play and inconsistently in those games too.
Im not on drugs (although ive contemplated it to get through an FC game before i realised the entertainment itself is a natural sedative) and if you had seen all of our games this season you would realise that Lee have played far better than Berro consistently all season. Berrigan being quality has nothing to do with how he has performed. You could argue that putting TL into any top 6 team would make him look even better too.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"By those standards surely a champion player should still look a champion player in a team of chumps then rather than simply looking like another chump like he has done?'"
i can see the qulaity berrigan has in fc's team, he stands out a mile in my opinion and i agree that if he was at leeds or saints etc, he would be up for man of steel
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"In the limited games youve seen him play and inconsistently in those games too.
Im not on drugs (although ive contemplated it to get through an FC game before i realised the entertainment itself is a natural sedative) and if you had seen all of our games this season you would realise that Lee have played far better than Berro consistently all season. Berrigan being quality has nothing to do with how he has performed. You could argue that putting TL into any top 6 team would make him look even better too.'"
Except Berrigan has the world class pedigree behind him and as the saying goes, form is temporary, class is permanent. I would have him at Rovers in a heartbeat, where I reckon he would be the difference between what we are now and being more of contenders in the play offs.
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"i can see the qulaity berrigan has in fc's team, he stands out a mile in my opinion and i agree that if he was at leeds or saints etc, he would be up for man of steel'"
Ive seen small glimpses but nothing more. Huge disappointment for me for the 2 years he has been here.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Ive seen small glimpses but nothing more. Huge disappointment for me for the 2 years he has been here.'"
fair enough big D.....ive been more disapointed with others tho..
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"fair enough big D.....ive been more disapointed with others tho..'"
Agree, but my expectations of Berro were higher than the others too based on reputation.
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