Morgan went to the Cowboys. Tangata-Toa is the NSW Cup coach to keep the Hull/Rovers vibe going

The new house of league podcast is a great and depressing listen in equal measure.

It's the closest we've got to the old UTC podcast when Dan is on it. Feels like we all need a group therapy session

Found this about the gov loans

"The money lent to your company under the Bounce Back loan scheme must be paid back, over 6 or 10 years, with payments starting 12 months after your company receives the loan. If the money your company borrowed is not repaid, your company may be investigated by the Insolvency Service, even if it has been dissolved.31 Mar 2022"

Don't know if this helps at all

I was a big fan of Smith being appointed originally. We might just be the club that breaks him. He’s been successful everywhere else.
When he was at the dobbins, he had an average squad, but still coached an open, dangerous style of rugby.
We seem to be watching the same old same old we watched under Radford and Hodgson.

Just listened to the podcast, more or less spot on, as others have said a great but depressing listen.

Main take outs.

No one can see a way out.
Training facilities a shambles
No other SL wanted to sign Pele or Okunbor.
Jacob Allick, was just about done, but pulled out last minute.

Hull Live reporting Smith has the clubs full backing.

Just been given the dreaded vote of confidence. Although no actual quotes from AP or Clark

Alick wanted to come but we offered him an absolute shambles of a deal….good old Clarky

It appears all our hopes are pinned on a bloke coming back of a major leg injury to save our season, again.

He’ll be like Carlos he will last about two games.

Don't get me wrong I really like Trueman but you've got to be mad to think his return is suddenly going to make our problems on the pitch disappear.

AP apparently turned down an offer to appear on sports talk yesterday, which is no real surprise as there's no passes to be sold currently.

I agree I really rate trueman, but I’ve got no real hope that he will come back and play every game.

Adam only speaks to us when he’s got something to shift, probably be a magic shirt due out soon.

Doesn't matter when he's back. Season will be finished

To be fair season was finished before we kicked a ball. Squad was always going to be bottom 3.

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Is Tony getting a bit defensive?

All this talk of culture is fine but its very vague. We all get that improving this club will take time but everything that seems to come out the club is vague generalities so we've no idea what they are actually doing. So when we don't see any improvements on the field it seems like nothing is happening.

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I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Not had a chance to listen to the podcast as yet (had been hoping to this evening but it will likely be tomorrow night now) but have read this article. He's right in that turning the culture around at the club is going to take time and not happen overnight. But it's not as if he's newly appointed. He's a season in now. There should be some outward signs at this point that the culture is improving slowly that we as fans can see each game out on the field. I think it's fair to say that no one is seeing that from the outside of the club. So it just sounds in similar vein to the old "we trained well all week" line we've heard for years. Meaningless if we're not seeing it on gameday. Which makes it very worrying when he says that the culture has improved a lot since he's been here.

Definitely sounds a bit defensive but maybe that's a good thing. Might be that he's showing some fighting spirit and that might rub off on the players.

Course he's getting defensive, he won't get another SL job if this doesnt turn round, and he's still only 57 and unless he's invested well probably can't just retire.

all this talk of culture and changing it,our current plight has nothing to do with it,the fact is most of the players we have now,just are not good enough.no flair,no leadership no guile.until we start signing some quality players and put them in the correct positions we will flounder.

If he was that good of a coach, he’d have at least improved our discipline but that’s arguably worse than when he took over.

For me, Clifford saying how easy our preseason was under Smith speaks volumes.
It would obviously explain our lack of fitness and propensity to give away penalties like confetti due to fatigue and lack of intensity in training.
Unless there is a huge sea change in Hull's on field performances, Smith is done for me.

Agree, London clearly have one of the weakest squads ever in SL but at least look organised and arent getting cards every week

Completely agree, sad state of affairs.

he never mentioned finances ,otherwise it sounded very much like another one of tinkering tonys mumblings