Paul isn't talking about "dropping every player who is out of contract" though is he. He is talking about what's best for the squad for the future. We have a perfectly good winger in Crookes (who BTW hasn't been found guilty of anything at all) who has looked potentially very good with limited opportunities.

If Briscoe is going to leave for another SL club after all that he has said, it's a kick in the teeth to the club and the fans. I would certainly agree with Paul and give Crookes a real chance on the wing. It would gives us a much better idea of what is needed for next season and, let's face it, Crookes could be an improvement on what Briscoe has done this season so far.

I hope so Bones.

According to Hetherington - its not Leeds Rhinos. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-5676743

According to Hetherington - its not Leeds Rhinos. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-5676743

Firstly, Why would it be in kick in the teeth to the club or the fans? Has he not fulfilled his contractual agreements?

Secondly, the if couldn't be anymore appropriate in this situation.

Thirdly, those trying to convince themselves that Briscoe is easily replaces are having a heads gone episode. I can only imagine if the players view these boards, it could make their minds up fairly quickly that some of the fans we have are fickle to the extreme and they would be off like a shot.

Quote ="weaver93"According to Hetherington - its not Leeds Rhinos. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-5676743'" and he's a man we all know and trust.

Quote ="weaver93"According to Hetherington - its not Leeds Rhinos. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-5676743'" and he's a man we all know and trust.

hullwhite star i see where your coming from, but at the same time you could have a lot of money sat in the stands,imo briscoe atm is the better winger and should be playing unless his form takes a dive, to play him atm is the best thing for the club this year which is what counts, the good thing is if he does go we do have a good winger to replace him, think it does need to be sorted now though so both player and club can move on

I think the point that was being made is if Briscoe is not here next year then play Crookes to get him ready for next year.

So the other poster said O Meeley is not here next year so why not get Bowden in ready for next year.

Where do you stop, should Tickle be dropped if he does not commit.

Personally I think its farcical to even consider not playing our stongest 17 if they are fit regardless of whether they are here or not next year. Players like Crookes and Bowden will still get chances throughout the season.

After reading through the posts. You can see both sides of the arguement.

Briscoe is class and should play as he's one of the best wingers in SL atm,

But on the other hand, if he does sign for someone else in SL, why keep playing him as when he leaves it's going to leave a big whole for crookes to step into where if you drop Briscoe and play Crookes now. He will pick up some momentum and start next year raring to go..

Both are right things to do but it's not upto us.

So let me get this right because a player is leaving at the end of thecseason, halfway through the season, clubs should drop these players and play other players in preparation for the next season.

I dare anyone to start a thread on the Wigan board saying they should drop Richards for the rest of the season to get another player ready for next year.

I'm really glad some on here don't run rugby clubs.

Quote ="weaver93"According to Hetherington - its not Leeds Rhinos. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-5676743'" Never mentions once in that they aren't interested in briscoe, seems to avoid the question. On another note, poor move by Luke briscoe, with all the injuries we have had a FB and HB, he would have played a few first team games for hull, instead he is sat in the reserves.

Quote ="weaver93"According to Hetherington - its not Leeds Rhinos. www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-5676743'" Never mentions once in that they aren't interested in briscoe, seems to avoid the question. On another note, poor move by Luke briscoe, with all the injuries we have had a FB and HB, he would have played a few first team games for hull, instead he is sat in the reserves.

You assume Crookes will be here next year

No, it's about weighing up what you'd lose by not playing Briscoe with what you'd gain by playing Crookes, and on Tom's form this year it's not that big an imbalance.
I'd expect most clubs make this kind of decision around players that are leaving and I'd imagine a few that are rubbishing Paul's post probably wanted Ben Crooks to play instead of Jordan Turner last year.
If Tom moves to another SL club then it's understandable that the fans will not be impressed as he won't be showing the loyalty that they want from players. And by choosing rivals like Leeds or Wigan it's a kick in the teeth for fans that believe (rightly or wrongly) that we'll be challenging those teams very soon and he's being impatient.
If he goes to an NRL club it's more about a personal challenge against the best players in the world, which is more acceptable to fans than moving to a team in a competition he's already proven himself in.

I expect that once a decision is made and in the public domain, Tom will return to the form that has made him Super League's most explosive winger, and the best player we've produced in a long time.

Briscoe has never given anything less than 100% for this club and I doubt we'll see any different between now and when he moves on. I hope he doesn't go to another SL club and if I were him and the Oz door is closed I'd look to move to RU where he'd end up playing for England and be a millionaire within 2 or 3 years

Not every Rugby league player settles at RU The lad from Saints has not played for England (Yet)

It beggers belief doesn't it Dave.

Remember back to Sterling's season with Hull (84/85). Perhaps he shouldnt have played at all

Very true, and he's well aware he has to show his worth.In an interview with ETS this week on SLTV, he was spoken twice and both times he spoke about the competition for places and playing for his starting England spot.

I know it is The Sun but they think its Leeds he is going to. I think the longer it drags on the more chance it is Leeds. www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... plans.html

I know it is The Sun but they think its Leeds he is going to. I think the longer it drags on the more chance it is Leeds. www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... plans.html

Well you don't read you own.

Looking at it short term Briscoe plays, would we lose that much with Crookes playing. The same Crookes who was bang in form when he got injured. Of course Briscoe is the far better player but it depends on how we plan to replace Briscoe next year if he goes. Potentially our new winger might have played around 6 games in two season which isn't ideal or even close.

For me it's a consideration, that said Tom is playing well even if he has been quiet by his usual standards.

Dave you are talking crap. I have never said drop players who leave. This is a specific set of circumstances, Crookes was brought in to play, Lineham's form and Crookes injury has meant he is on the fringes. I assume we are expecting him to play next year if Tom goes. Let's remember he spent most of last season out and possibly most of this season. We need to know he is up for the job otherwise we may have to recruit.

If we are planning to go with Lineham and Crookes next season then having Crookes play about 6 games in two years isn't ideal preparation.

So please don't talk rubbish that I am suggesting just leaving out players who are OOC.

I can see why we would play Tom, i'm a huge fan of his. I just think we need to give Crookes games this season ahead of seeing him next season.

Thanks. I would never doubt Tom's commitment or ability but we do need to know about Crookes if he is one of our starting wingers for next season. Completely agree about the move to SL/NRL/RU.

Exactly, If Briscoe joins another SL team next year, Think of it like this.
Would you rather play Briscoe (Yes he's our player right now) and build him up even more before he leaves.
Or, Play Crookes and build his game up as he's the future winger for when Briscoe does leave esp for reasons above (injuries).

Yes most of you are hating because Tom's one of the best wingers around.
But if he does sign for someone else, i'd rather see crooks play then briscoe.

I'd rather us build for the future, plus Crooks outshone Briscoe when he played imo.

Pretty simple for me.
Tom Briscoe-one of the finest wingers in the super league is on the books for hull fc!
As long as he's at hull fc he gets selected for hullfc!

You will never convince me that dropping Briscoe is a good idea and luckily for the club, I am sure Gentle will agree with me.

Nobody once last year suggested Moa or Manu be dropped to give Chris Green some gametime.

What is we do your idea and Crookes get injured in pre-season? What if we sign another winger and Crookes cant get in.

The only thing we can agree about is that it would be useful to give Crookes some gametime, I am sure that he will get some time later in the year, if not we need at dual registering or loaning him to another club.

What makes you think that Maggo?

Would be gutted if he goes, but if he does I wonder if we'll replace from within, or replace with a new player from outside the club?.
I'd take Broughton or Dixon from London if I could.
I wouldn't look to overseas. I never liked it when we tied up a quota spot & large wedge of salary cap out on the wings (although I was a big fan of Colin Best!).
I was hoping Briscoe would go to the NRL. I think I'd even rather he went to union than a rival Super League team.