What "evidence" has Bruce or you looked at then?

Did you both attend the whole trial and listen to every word of testimony or have you read a complete transcript of the case?

The appeal judge at least read the grounds for appeal and when compared to the trial transcript, decided not to allow the appeal. A decision that was then confirmed by a panel of threee appeal court judges.

Much of the game of professional soccer is still steeped in misogyny, it's high time they dragged themselves into the 21st century

He's entitled to his opinion but it was unwise of Bruce to publicly comment on this.

Bruce has done right in speaking out against the media witch hunt. If people knew 'the facts' of the case they might see things a little differently https://www.crimeline.info/case/r-v-che ... dwyn-evans Now watch this video and tell how wasted she is chedevans.com/judge-for-yourself

Bruce has done right in speaking out against the media witch hunt. If people knew 'the facts' of the case they might see things a little differently https://www.crimeline.info/case/r-v-che ... dwyn-evans Now watch this video and tell how wasted she is chedevans.com/judge-for-yourself

Probably about right.

Those rightly demanding free speech for the likes of Paris cartoonists would do well to allow the same right to those who may not agree with mainstream opinion.

I don't paticularly care whether he's guilty or not, any person should be allowed to continue their career once they've served their sentence. The fact he's a footballer shouldn't come in to the equation.

However I do find it bizarre that, given the girls story they could find one party guilty and the other not guilty.

Quote ="Sebasteeno"Bruce has done right in speaking out against the media witch hunt. If people knew 'the facts' of the case they might see things a little differently https://www.crimeline.info/case/r-v-che ... dwyn-evans Now watch this video and tell how wasted she is chedevans.com/judge-for-yourself'" It is not a Media witch hunt mate unless you are thinking that approx. 40000 are media people. The fact is the girl had never met this scrote and was she was drunk he sneeked in and out of a Hotel and not only penetrated her but had a bit of Muff diving. If you and Bruce want to defend that well good for you. I hope you never have a problem with a daughter.

Quote ="Sebasteeno"Bruce has done right in speaking out against the media witch hunt. If people knew 'the facts' of the case they might see things a little differently https://www.crimeline.info/case/r-v-che ... dwyn-evans Now watch this video and tell how wasted she is chedevans.com/judge-for-yourself'" It is not a Media witch hunt mate unless you are thinking that approx. 40000 are media people. The fact is the girl had never met this scrote and was she was drunk he sneeked in and out of a Hotel and not only penetrated her but had a bit of Muff diving. If you and Bruce want to defend that well good for you. I hope you never have a problem with a daughter.

1885, does that mean if your children went to a nursery and one of the staff got convicted of being a paedophile you'd be happy for them to resume looking after your children once they'd served their sentance?

That's illegal. Evans playing football again isn't illegal.

Rape is Illegal

Have you actually looked at what is open to the public or not? I'm guessing not then because you're clearly a another know nowt sheep.
If you have are you able to make a considered decision (of your own volition) regarding the case and the actual evidence?
If you think the case against Evans is clear cut & he's a rapist, that's fine, the system and 12 people found him guilty, I on the other hand can 'see' what was right in front of everyone (though some was excluded from the original trial due to incompetence). In my opinion and that of many thousands of other normal thinking people can see that the 'evidence' shows that the whole thing is a miscarriage of justice..
That Steve Bruce has his own opinion and thinks the same is his right, just as it is your right to have yours, it's the right to have that opinion that seems to be open for debate, people like you & Sir Stan seemingly only want to allow others to have one if it fits in with what you agree with..same as the rugby discussions tbh..

Explain to me and thousands of others please

I think Bruce is entitled to his opinion and those that have actually read up on this case will certainly have some questions surrounding the case against Ched Evans.

The woman in question has apparently made a previous rape allegation that was proved to be false. She'd also tweeted before the trial that when she wins she wins big and that she will treat her and a friend to pink mini's and a holiday, She was also apparently too intoxicated to consent yet she managed to carry a pizza whilst opening double doors all in high heels. We also have two parties who had sex with the woman that night in that hotel room. One got a not guilty one a guilty. If she is too intoxicated to agree to sleep with one male then surely she's too intoxicated to sleep with both?
She was also found to be lying under oath on toxicology reports that showed that she was a habitual user of Cannabis and cocaine.

Plenty of unanswered questions.

why should I, because you can't be arrised to go and look/access public records and form your own opinion, I guess you're another sheeple right?
It's Bruce's opinion I'm defending, my own personal opinion is that I think Evans has being stitched up..
Why don't you have a look at the evidence then come back and give YOUR opinion...

Did the first guy say anything about whether there was an odd bottle. Who dobbed the good boy Ched in cos it was not the girl cos she was drunk, You males can try as much as you can but it was RAPE under English law. Get over it and let the scrote get on his life he is not the greatest Footballer in the world. 1st division of English Football give me a break.

Apparently nobody made an allegation of rape.
This was taken of the website mentioned earlier.

So 12 men a true find him guilty . We are ed as a nation over one Lower Rank Footballer. I worry #charlie

No one is preventing him continuing his career. No one apart from Ched Evans and his knuckle-dragging apologists that is.

It has taken him until today to show even a shred of contrition and that was issued begrudgingly. He hasn't asked for the support website to be taken down and his happy to sit back and allow his "supporters" to continue to vilify the REAL victim in this case. In case it passed you by, that victim IS NOT Ched Evans.

My advice to him would be to consider a career away from football. Can you imagine the reception he will receive from opposition supporters? I just hope that he is also receiving professional counselling.

He could always ply his trade abroad, were it not for the fact that as he still hasn't served his whole sentence, he is not allowed to travel abroad. He hasn't "done his time", he's only done half of it.

City are in danger of breaching the fair play cap. Budget isn't the word. Ched's about all they can afford, I reckon.

Plus his girlfriend Natasha is a good friend of Amy Bruce, of course, according to social media.

Evans Stevens. Unwelcome to Hull, munChed.

Don't agree with what he's said but I'd die fighting for his right to say it.
JE SUIS CHARLIE.

This is where people are getting mixed up. A profession in which you hold a position of trust (doctor, nurse, teacher) is not comparible to being a footballer.
All the witch hunt mob will do is turn Evans in to the victim. There are people playing football that have killed before, where's the outcry about them? Ones even captaining his club.

He was given legal advice to not speak. Why should he apologise for something he's adamant he hasn't done, would you?
He has completely distanced himself from those that have vilified the girl and apologised for the hurt caused by events that night.
He has a right, as does every other person to rehabilitation. Part of that is being allowed to resume his career. Making rehabilitation conditional is not a path we should go down, under any circumstances.

As I said, his guilt is not the issue for me, the very laws that convicted him also say he has a right to be rehabilitated.

Listening to bruces' comments I wonder if he had watched question time on Thursday night as one of the panelists made virtually the same comments

...or maybe he reads [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11226209/Ched-Evans-Sorry-but-all-rapes-are-not-the-same.htmlThe Telegraph.[/url

1865, please stop trying to be inflammatory. I was only responding to your sweeping statement that anyone has the right to resume their career.

Have you read the transcripts yet then sheeple???? Or are you going to come out with an educated opinion or just carry on talking b0llocks???