Regardless of what you think of him, or what he says. He is correct that some people are writing the season off now, when it is still possible, note I said possible, that we can still go on and challenge for honours. What do you expect him to say?
I think what we, the fans have to accept is, that from what's been said, by him and the BOD, he's staying put for now. So despite that, we're all going to have to get behind the team and hope things improve on the field.
Or we can all stay at home and miss the revival

It is possible we could go for a heady win ratio of 40% for the remainder of the season, that would get us 8 games (and a draw) for a grand total of 17 more points to go with the 2 we already have. How far up the table do you think 19 points will get us?

What get behind them and allow them to paper over the so very very obvious cracks resulting from having a sub standard super league coach?? I think weve all but decided that 3 years of drivel, boredom and dissapointment under agars rule is more than enough thanks. You go tho, theyl like that!

Well last year it would have got us 10th. So with a bit of luck and the wind in the right direction, 3 more wins on top would put us in the 8.

I'm not saying we can or will, just that it is clear he's not going at the moment. So as a supporter, I'm choosing to get behind my team. It'll save a lot of energy and angst, chewing on about things we don't seem able to change.

Wow! The top 8! I'm excited just thinking about it.

We're not Crusaders, FFS.

Indeed, it seems the lack of ambition is catching amongst the fans.

I guess finishing 8th and being the first team ever to win the Grand Final from there would be a good season, especially with a CC win and then winning the World Club Challenge.....

time for my meds

We are all supporters and we all despartely want to keep getting behind our team. HOWEVER, we must take heed that apathetic attitudes such as yours (Im not trying to have a go) are exactly what Kath and Ruley are relying on!! I wont be made guilty for finally admitting I wont take anymore of their crap or Agars incompetence no matter how many years ive stood by the "in any kind of weather mantra" - ENOUGH IS NOW ENOUGH!! After all im sure there have been many connotations of the meaning of those words to the club past and present. I dont believe a man made board crisis of completely their own doing and more importantly something that they could so easily put right is one that should fit under this mantra/umbrella!! WE ARE ALL FAITHFUL, we all however have different breaking points. The vast majority have now UNUSUALLY AND UNCHARACTARISTICALLY MET OURS!! It doesnt make us any less of a supporter, nor does your opinion to still go, make you a better one, just a more apathetic one. Again each to their own but I firmly believe that apathy in epidermic proportions (say 10,000 plus) is just what Kath and Agar need to continue in their quest to NOTHINGNESS!! HA HA NOT EVEN SURE IF NOTHINGNESS IS A TRUE WORD, BUT IT SOUNDS TOO RIGHT TO BE WRONG IN THIS INSTANCE!!

ACTUALLY quite the opposite which is why he is trying to tuirn it around...

I was refering to Super League games as Agar was talking about how the start of a campaign does not necessarily point to how it will end.

In 2006 we went WWLLLWL then sacked Kear, we lost Agar's first SL game as caretaker coach then won the next 13 (the first three of which were under Agar).

Wolfie in (not a very good) disguise?

No thanks. Although my primary motivation for attendance these days is so I can say I was one of the few martyrs that stuck with the team [ueven[/u in the latter part of Agar's tenure. I'm hoping I get a badgeicon_lol.gif

I know we're not.
What I'm saying is, that from our current position, that would be better than finishing bottom.
I do not like the position we're in. I do agree that change is needed, but I'm not in a position to do anything about it, other than not to attend matches. I'm not prepared to do that, others are. That is their CHOICE.
I have supported FC for 32 years, I will continue to support them. That doesn't mean I love, or hate Agar. It means I have seen better, and worse times (hard for some to believe) and you know what, we came through them and won the odd trophy on the way.

We have no divine right to win things.
We, as supporters, do have the right to expect better.
It will bet better.

Incorrect Dr.

I have no connections in the club, nor do I know anyone who knows anyone. Just a supporter.

12th would be better than finishing bottom. It doesn't mean it would constitute a good season, though.



It's not about whether we've seen better or worse times. I was there all through the times when we were in the lower division and when we nearly got relegated from SL. But things were different then. We didn't have the stadium, the attendances, the merchandising income, the sponsorship or the salary cap space that we have now. The fact is, there's no good reason we should be in the position we're in. It's solely down to poor management.



Not that load of old cack. You sound like ICEPROEXCREAMMAN.

No one is saying we have a divine right to win things. But we do have a right to expect that a club of our standing, with all of the off-field success our loyalty has provided, should be [irealistic contenders[/i for every trophy available. As things stand, some of us are just looking forward to finishing 8th.



When Agar goes, it might.

Sorry missed the Bradford cup game.

I don't believe I said it would constitute a good season.

The problem is, that those of you who are obviously, and understandably, very angry about the present situation, think that anybody who has different view, is either a sheep, apathetic or ICEPROEXCREAMMAN.

All I'm saying is, it doesn't look like Agar is going anywhere at the moment, so I CHOOSE to continue supporting Hull FC, by going to watch.

Is snerder an anagram of expro?

After reading that the expression "No $hit sherlock" springs to mind.....well i hope he turns round anf buggers off.

yes incorrect as im here under my own name

And after tonights game on sky it is clear that we are not in the same league as these teams - not a chance of competing at the top.

The answer to that is obvious, and proves the point I made in the post above it.

So by turning it around he means ,fast flowing,entertaining rugby that will bring us fans out of our apathy?
Oh,and we might actually win a game?
I feel cynical about the whole situation at the moment t.b.h.
A sad state of affairs when you lose heart with the club you support.

I'm sorry but that isn't all you are doing, supporting the team doesn't have to involve defending the Head Coach's poor performance.

Rich Agar is like global warming. Some people saw the problem ages ago, while most took a lot longer to convince. Now though, the body of evidence has become so overwhelming that the only people left denying it to be true are crackpots and those with a vested interest. The time for having the debate about whether Agar should remain in his job is over, everyone must focus their efforts on forcing him out of the club before the damage becomes completely irreparable.

Good summary that, it took me a while to realise Agar was not the man for us tbh.
Hopefully he will have feck off after tomorrow.

Dream on.