on the adrenalin of one player

Ask him who was the 1st team beaten by crusaders that had been together for 6 weeks? Ask who wakey and quins had there biggest wins against last season? Ask who wigan scored most points against in a season? Ask who hkr won there 1st playoff game against? Shall I go on?

Not really!

You and the likes of Jakes bore the fook out of me with the repetitive doom and gloom.

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Crusdaers finished 8th and played good rugby and beat many teams

I would ask you if you had considered the variables when quoting other teams and scores, but it would be pointless because you are clearly adamant about coming on here and posting the same tripe all the time, Agar is useless..you are concerned where the board are taking us, etc etc etc

It would be intersting to compare these stats with the number of times Hull kept the opposition try less and under 10 points per half as well....

Not sure we can do that...it may not be negative enough

Hardly a fair and reasonable argument then is it? The stats will probably show that in attack we under performed which comes as no surprise but off the top of my head we kept Giants, Saints, Hull KR, Salford, Catalans, Bulls, Quins and Leeds try less for a half of rugby.

to be fair to the brother...we lost against the three of the bottom four teams in the league last year, and to a team with 6-8 weeks preperation time to get a team!!!! that with the stats as above is a complete disgrace in my opinion, one that needs to be adressed ASAP in order for agar to keep his job in my opinion...
6 teams scored worst points than us, and 4 of them beat us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i know for a fact that this is what kr discussed in there meetings before the play-off when they beat us...we was lucky to beat crusaders and catalans at home....[size=200that stinks!!!![/size

we did it to the Giants twice I think.

While we're asking questions, who was the last coach to coach us to a top flight league double over Rovers?

Catalans had 30 halfs with less than 10 points
Crusaders 30
Quins 30
Salford 29
Bradford 26
Wakey 26
Hull 25
Rovers 22
Leeds 22
Hudds 19
Castleford 17
Wigan 13
Warrington 10
Saints 9

Brian Smith in the late 80s?

So, Cas had less, yet finished quite far behind us in the league!
This argument is getting weaker by the post!

lost to all them teams...as i said thats poor

Ask him the impact of Radfords sending off v Leeds and Halls injury against HKR.

Yes, we lost 4 times to the bottom 5 of those teams. But St. Helens lost 4 times to bottom 6 of those.

Or Long's against Warrington at home.

Lets put your money where your mouth is then,see who talks the most tripe afterall you was the one expecting us to finish 3rd,i will give you top 6 as u expect us to finish,i'll take us to finish 7th or below,u win I will bow to superior knowledge although I know you won't and for £100 aswell?

14 clubs and you want 8 places? Give her top 7.

For two years all they had to talk about (correctly) was finishing league position.
Now it's points scored in halves



A definite sign of progress.

How many teams lost their halfbacks and still 80 min away for top 4

I will take the bet...however not for money as the problem there is you would have to meet me when I took the money off you and I certainly do not want to do that!
I am sure you will be happy with that though as you can then spend the season hoping Hull FC fail!

Tbh im sick of hearing about injuries all teams have them,its how you deal with them,saints didn't do to bad with no pryce,eastmond its easy to hide behind them. Agar was asked what was plan b when our halves were injured all covered he said with washy,berro,tansey never worked had over a year to get a half in,jamie rooney could have done a job. What happens if horne,long,houghton get injured 1st game,hes the boss he should have the depth sorted buck stops with him

23 years ago and was it brian smith

Depends who we sign.

We put alot of faith in the long signing and we obviously have received encouraging medical reports on Horne for the last 2 seasons.

I don't know who the club have been in talks with although I would agreeplayers have moved to other clubs who would have been good at hull, they might not want to come with hull been known as a hole.

Then there's whatever happened with berro and how much the club knew about it.