If we want to move forward as a team next year there is no room for King for me. Regardless of one good game

If we let Big Sam slip through our fingers like so many players recently, then we deserve all we get. There seems alot of confusion about if we have room or not. Can anyone clear this up once and for all.

exactly right, needs shipping out, couple of good games does not warrant him stayong

Berro, Cusack, Fitzgibbon, o'Meley, and then Lauaki is either Quota or Kolpak, and Manu is Kolpak, which is our six for next season.

So, getting rid of a player who puts effort into everything he does for the sake of the team is the way forward?

And it hasn't just been one game, there has been many occasions where King has played out of his skin for Hull, but because of off the field incidents, people seem to ignore this.

We are allowed 6 playes on the quota next year and already have Cusack, Berrigan, O meeley, Fitz, manu and Lauaki.

Moa wants to stay and has said Hull are trying to get Manu taken off the quota.

I would love for us to keep Moa gives his all every game and is effective.

I disagree, King isn't good enough anymore.

It's no good putting effort in on match day if you spend the rest of your time getting trousered.

That aside, he's not good enough any more. He could have been one of the best props we've ever had if he'd applied himself, but he's wasted his talent over a period of years. I'd not be sorry to see him go.

Thought his effort to get back for the early tackles in the set was a little wanting, myself. A lot of walking by him and Radford in particular.

You're obviously 'in the know' and have some background information. But people, on here especially, complain when there is a lack of effort and as soon as someone shows a bit they get shot down.

Id love to see Moa again net season, maybe thier paying Cusack off or an agreed setlement from both partys, who knows, but i for one hope hes still here next season.

He puts effort in I give you that but if we want to progress we need better players. He had one of his better games tonight but how many times did he break the line of the worst team in the league. For me I want a prop that can do this.

If some are happy to settle for mediocracy then lets get the contracts out for King Dowes Radders G Horne. For me we need a big shake up and that means putting together a pack that can dominate teams. Ours couldnt dominate a dalmation puppy.

That will be an embarrasment for Hull if they do considering they only just gave Cusack a year extension.

For me that decision was made too soon as I cant see the logic in giving cusack one year and ignoring an up and coming prop like Moa.

I really don't think Agar is going to get rid of Radders, G.Horne, Kingy ect ect i have a strong feeling that most of this deadwood will still be here next year and beyond.

G horne is out of contact and will be gone i reckon, heard a rumour Radders is retiring to concentrate on Coaching. Hopefully King will be told he can look for a club

Yes it would be an embarasment for Cusack and Hull, and true also they did the deal to early. Whiting hasnt even got another contract next season, but just saying they may be doing this with Cusack, its a big may like.

Doubt that very much he has only just signed a new deal.

I wish we had not because I'd prefer to keep Moa.

In no way am I suggesting that. Our props signed up for next year (so far) are Cusack, Dowes, O'Meley, Lauaki and King. We release King, Radford and Dowes (I have no idea why his name is cropping up as 'deadwood') and it leaves us with 3 props. That doesn't sound like a front row that can dominate.

Should be gone and probally will be, but i just have an incling that he'll still be here.

Yes i know but might be regreting it.

Same here.

I like Dowes and believe every team needs a played like him our problem is we have 3 of them with him Radders and Cusack.

Agree our props will be Cusack Dowes Omeley and Lauaki.

Would love to see big Sam stay but he prob wont due to quota. Personally I think we need to sign another good prop but agree we will prob still have King or Radders who are ok props but not good enough to make us a top side.

The thing is, you can't just offload players without bringing someone else in first, but, as Kath Hetherington was saying in the program, there is more competition for signings now and it will take time.

he cant stay though can he we allrwady have 6 quota sports for next year berro, o meely , fitz , manu , luaki , cusack

unless we can get someone off quota there will be no manu

some one tell me if im wrong because i really hope this guy stays