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| Quote ="ChrisH"OK.But he is showing passion and we lose out week in week out because other teams are constantly in the refs ear. It's just a matter of course for Sinfield , Wellens , Briers etc And it works. Our "leaders" stand around with their heads down and say nowt! We've been too "nice" for too long. We need some aggression , some passion. These things are borne out of desire and frustration. That's what drives us all to be on here.The fact there's only Calderwood demonstrating that he cares is probably symptomatic of where we are.'"
True that. I'm sure he'll get banned anyway as a result of the officials' inept ability.
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| Quote ="Ull Lad"thought in the first few games he looked like he didnt want to play for the club. But now he's starting to show us what a great player he is. Well played Calders'"
Steady on! Baldeywood and great in the same sentence is a bit extreme. He was your most enthusiastic player last night but enthusiasm isn't the only characteristic of a GREAT player.
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| He's turned out to be a great signing, what a shame we don't use him more.
His enthusiasm is good to see, it's just a shame it's not shared by some others.
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| I was gutted when he left Leeds, and I'm glad to see he's at a club where he is valued and used properly. He has bags of pace and enthusiasm, and there aren't many better at the kick chase.
Not only that, but in defence I can't think of any winger who works as hard as he does. In the second half he did one of his typical three-in-a-row. Any teams forwards must love to see that.
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"I was gutted when he left Leeds, and I'm glad to see he's at a club where he is valued and used properly. He has bags of pace and enthusiasm, and there aren't many better at the kick chase.
Not only that, but in defence I can't think of any winger who works as hard as he does. In the second half he did one of his typical three-in-a-row. Any teams forwards must love to see that.'"
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"I was gutted when he left Leeds, and I'm glad to see he's at a club where he is valued and used properly. He has bags of pace and enthusiasm, and there aren't many better at the kick chase.
Not only that, but in defence I can't think of any winger who works as hard as he does. In the second half he did one of his typical three-in-a-row. Any teams forwards must love to see that.'"
Agree with most of that barring, that he doesn't get used properly.
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| Quote ="ChrisH"OK.But he is showing passion and we lose out week in week out because other teams are constantly in the refs ear. It's just a matter of course for Sinfield , Wellens , Briers etc And it works. Our "leaders" stand around with their heads down and say nowt! We've been too "nice" for too long. We need some aggression , some passion. These things are borne out of desire and frustration. That's what drives us all to be on here.The fact there's only Calderwood demonstrating that he cares is probably symptomatic of where we are.'"
Sorry but I disagree. I thought he looked like Ballack did during their game against Barca. Not a good impression at all imo passion or not. I do agree though that others do similar rants at the ref. They should all be punished though and not given free licence to dictate the plays or video calls. Senior was way out of order though when he changed his running line to block Calders. The ref was incompetant not to at least have a look but there are ways of asking the question without looking like a demented fool.
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| Quote ="FC_TILL_I_DIE"he played class last night. he was easily our best player. if he keeps this up he will get pick for the match against france.'"
Good lord
"Class" was Vainikolo when he scored 6 tries against you. "Class" was Shaun Briscoe last week against Cas. "Class" was Allan Langer's last Queensland performance against New South Wales.
Calderwood was not class last night. Faaaar from it!
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| Quote ="Linebreaker"Sorry but I disagree. I thought he looked like Ballack did during their game against Barca. Not a good impression at all imo passion or not. I do agree though that others do similar rants at the ref. They should all be punished though and not given free licence to dictate the plays or video calls. Senior was way out of order though when he changed his running line to block Calders. The ref was incompetant not to at least have a look but there are ways of asking the question without looking like a demented fool.'"
Referees are untouchable, and they shouldn't be. There is a line obviously, but when a referee has made a bad decision, and then thinks that he is above listening to players opinions then he shouldn't be allowed to walk away without being questioned. It was very Ganson-esque, "I know best and I'm not going to listen to what anyone else has to say."
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Referees are untouchable, and they shouldn't be. There is a line obviously, but when a referee has made a bad decision, and then thinks that he is above listening to players opinions then he shouldn't be allowed to walk away without being questioned. It was very Ganson-esque, "I know best and I'm not going to listen to what anyone else has to say."'"
If refs listened every time a player had an opinion about a call he/she had made the game would last several hours.
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| Quote ="Linebreaker"I can understand his reaction at the ref missing a blatant block by Senior but I totally condemn his antics toward the ref and the touch judge. Its the very last thing we want to see in this game.
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I think this is what Senior excels at. He has lots of skills but the one he is definitely best at is obstruction. He has the most rounded set of obstructions that I think I've ever seen in a player. He can obstruct from the kick off, get in the way of players chasing a kick, run into a player in the line, take would-be tacklers out - his ability covers the whole gamut. Hats of to Keith Senior for taking obstruction to a new level. I often wonder if had he been a tall man with a big shiny bald head instead of the tiny, dark-haired insignificant bloke that he is, whether he would have been spotted by match officials whilst he developed this skill-set over the years. Ah well, I'm afraid we will never know what might have been.
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| Quote ="downtheante"I think this is what Senior excels at. He has lots of skills but the one he is definitely best at is obstruction. He has the most rounded set of obstructions that I think I've ever seen in a player. He can obstruct from the kick off, get in the way of players chasing a kick, run into a player in the line, take would-be tacklers out - his ability covers the whole gamut. Hats of to Keith Senior for taking obstruction to a new level. I often wonder if had he been a tall man with a big shiny bald head instead of the tiny, dark-haired insignificant bloke that he is, whether he would have been spotted by match officials whilst he developed this skill-set over the years. Ah well, I'm afraid we will never know what might have been.'"
The thing is Senior is a class player and doesn't need to do any of that.
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| Quote ="Chris28"icon_lol.gif
The thing is Senior is a class player and doesn't need to do any of that.'"
But he gets away with it and it benefits the team. The blame lies with the officials for not picking up on it for so long when it's something he's been notorious for for a number of years.
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| Quote ="Linebreaker"Sorry but I disagree. I thought he looked like Ballack did during their game against Barca. Not a good impression at all imo passion or not. I do agree though that others do similar rants at the ref. They should all be punished though and not given free licence to dictate the plays or video calls. Senior was way out of order though when he changed his running line to block Calders. The ref was incompetant not to at least have a look but there are ways of asking the question without looking like a demented fool.'"
I agree with the point you make but this is about Calderwood , his attitude over some of our other players and not about referees. In an ideal world of course we don't want to plumb the depths of football referee baiting etc but currently we are just lying down as a club and not fighting back on any front eg RHumberside. Everyone else seems to be prepared to stand up and be counted. Rightly or wrongly it does demonstrate passion and it is being proved to work , will Thaler referee KR again?
I want to see in my team enough passion that in frustrating times like these they do push at the rules and boundaries. It's one thing being cool under pressure quite an other to appear not to give a t0ss.
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| Calderwood vented his frustration with a bad word but he did not abuse the referee. Nor did he assault the referee. Let's not get this out of proportion.
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| real radio have had mr silverwood on tonite and i txt in asking wether he thought that keef had obstructed mark and he said that he believed he had been obstructed.
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| Quote ="forevafaithful"real radio have had mr silverwood on tonite and i txt in asking wether he thought that keef had obstructed mark and he said that he believed he had been obstructed.
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| Its very simple. Calderwood ouses enthusiasm and has a never give up attitude.
This is what fans want!
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"Its very simple. Calderwood ouses enthusiasm and has a never give up attitude.
This is what fans want!'"
Exactly! When so many of them dont seem to give a t*ss its great to see one who seems to care. I would lie to see the same from some of our much-vaunted long serving and local players.
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"Its very simple. Calderwood ouses enthusiasm and has a never give up attitude.
This is what fans want!'"
Correct. Nice to have someone with this sort of attitude on our side - been missing one since McMenemy left.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08""Class" was Huddersfield absolutely destroying Hull KR a few weeks back....... Oh, hang on that was Ben Thalers fault wasn't it? Just like every other time you lose!!'"
Isn't it good when you've got to go back a 'few' weeks (6 weeks to be exact, 3 days after we beat you at yours) to find our last defeat!!!!
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| If Calderwood gets any kind of fine/ban I hope the club counter it immediately with a press release announcing him as the new captain of Hull FC. For me it would send out the right message to the players and would also stick two fingers up at the declining standards of referees over the last couple of years.
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