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| Quote ="EL CAMO"You're at it again!
Has he been seeing your missus or something?'"
It was more a joke comment regarding the slowest player, not how good he performed!! Not that he was spectacular!!
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| Oh...don't quit the day job.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Unlikely that a stretcher would be on for cramp. Although eventually not used the medical staff bringing on the stretcher should have been the point where the game was stopped IMO. It was bad luck but most of the time the appearance of a stretcher would likely stop the game - very few players are stretchered off in back play that I can remember.'"
The physio was on pretty quickly and gave the "no" signal straight away, followed by a second member of the med team coming on and then the stretcher, all before the try was anywhere near scored.
All water under the bridge now, but I'd have hoped that a ref or TJ would have seen that, realised the potential seriousness of the injury and stopped play.
Of course, the lack of comments/complaints next time a rovers player gets injured and play isn't stopped and a try is scored will be recorded for posterity...
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| Whilst i feel for you being on the end of a decision that cost you a try, try to also realise we was on the end of two bad decisions that gave you two tries....
Before someone asks for clarification as to which ones..
1...dobson sin binning.....should never have been...penalty at most
2...goal line drop out given against rovers when in fact it should have been a pen or 20metre restart... (pen for the push in the back on shannon which in turn pushed him onto the ball)
both instances lead to tries in the very next sets...
And whilst you are all going on about the poor decision for the forward pass try you are neglecting the these bad calls that went your way...
that being said.... that call is not what lost the game, not defending the lead out ,poor discipline and bad decision making is what lost the game...
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| If he had to be pushed onto the ball surely he was obstructing it
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| Quote ="the cal train"If he had to be pushed onto the ball surely he was obstructing it
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no you are allowed to shield etc if travelling in the same direction....
tries are chalked off for pushing the opponent away from the ball... as has been seen many times, end of the day shannon never played the ball... the push in the back pushed him into making contact... which is why it was a bad decision, however that one came and went upstairs and even they said goal line drop out.... like all choices and decisions made during the game right or wrong, they are consigned to the history books now..
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| Quote ="hull2524"we never seem to get the 50/50 calls, but we cant do nowt now, lets get 2 points against saints'"
going by the bilge they came up with yesterday I would say it's a comfortable two pointer for FC
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Did Blake Green even play??'"
According to Jon Wells's summing up, he played well for both Hull clubs
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| it tells you everything when Limpdick says it's the best win he's ever been involved in!
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| Quote ="Standee"it tells you everything when Limpdick says it's the best win he's ever been involved in!'"
Like a rovers fan put on facebook. "He should tell his face he's happy."
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| Quote ="supportplay"Like a rovers fan put on facebook. "He should tell his face he's happy."'"
It must be embarassing to have reached a "career high" where a dubious two point win in Manchester outshines a Grand Final win in the NRL as assistant coach.
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| Quote ="Chris28"The physio was on pretty quickly and gave the "no" signal straight away, followed by a second member of the med team coming on and then the stretcher, all before the try was anywhere near scored.
All water under the bridge now, but I'd have hoped that a ref or TJ would have seen that, realised the potential seriousness of the injury and stopped play.'"
Very much so. Another example of incompetence from the officials and not in the least bit surprising.
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| His decisions helped to create a result that ruined my week end away. I was pretty a broken man on Saturday evening in Manchester. Personally I don't blame my team at all, the majority of refs I believe would simply have held up play whilst Martin got treatment or went off, and a pass as clearly forward as that Dobson received would have been struck off, both without any qualms from rovers players or fans. Because thats what happens when a rule is broken or a player is down injured in our game.
Silly I know, but I actually feel like Ganson is making a single handed personal attack on my belief in the spirit of our Sport. He conjures up such anger in me with his inept decision making that I as a placid person just fill with rage at what he is doing out there in changing the outcome of results.
Will the RL do anything to safeguard our game ? and the way it is projected on screens to the masses who must watch in wonder as they challenge their own vision as they see things which they thought they clearly saw as one thing being judged as something very different????. This man is not doing our game any favours. The fans of all clubs need to let their voice be heard. For a start we need to have a bigger pool of Super League refs and the RL need to do what it takes investment wise to make this happen. Only then will they have the leverage to change/penalise refs who change results with incorrect decision-making.
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| Ganson had a really poor second half and the forward pass was shocking. We shouldn't have let the lead slip though but we also got some bad luck along the way. Martin getting injured gave them the ball and then they scored where he would have been defendinga couple of tackles later. Then the forward pass which was a joke. Then poor defending by Turner, Seymour and Sharp for the winning try. Wasn't really a capitulation but we had the game in the bag and where the better side for most of it.
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| Anyone else think that if we had Whiting playing we would have won? To quote Dobson yesterday (who was talking to my mate) "how did the referee not see that"?
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| Quote ="unknownlegend"Anyone else think that if we had Whiting playing we would have won? To quote Dobson yesterday (who was talking to my mate) "how did the referee not see that"?'" Speaking to Rich Whiting on Friday.... he was 'livid' that he had been suspended. He really wanted to be at Manchester..... but said he couldnt sit on the sides and watch.Not a happy bunny at all !!!!
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| Quote ="meatpaste"If we stopped the game for every 'injury' we would end up like football with players going down like Drogba. It was not a head injury so the game rightly continued. The injury was just bad luck as no one was near him when he went down . If he had gone down with cramp would you stop the game. NO.'"
But Martin didn't just go down with cramp, did he? It's potentially a career ending injury for him, almost certainly at Hull, and he had to be carried off. It was a joke that there was a spinalboard and 3-4 medical staff on the pitch whilst the game was still playing!
The game stopped for the Wigan/Saints game for an injury.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"But Martin didn't just go down with cramp, did he? It's potentially a career ending injury for him, almost certainly at Hull, and he had to be carried off. It was a joke that there was a spinalboard and 3-4 medical staff on the pitch whilst the game was still playing!
The game stopped for the Wigan/Saints game for an injury.'"
As I said earlier how many times has anyone seen a player stretchered off in back play whilst a game continued to be played ? He finished up being carried off on shoulders as the conversion was being kicked I suspect because he was near the sideline/dugout otherwise they would have carried him on the stretcher. Pathetic work from the officials.
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| Just looked on YouTube to see wether the. Stretcher was on or if he was been carried off whilst Latus was scoring but there's nothing there YET, I'm not saying this didn't happen, but it seems a bit on the quick side if it did.
It looksed like he went down with cramp at the time so I'm not suprised the ref didn't stop it tbh. Usually when a serious injury happens the tacklers alert the ref, unfortunately for Tony Martin and Hull, this was a freakish injury that had none.
Having just seen the above post, scrap the first part of this post.
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| Morning Ladies, my 1st appearance on here since the game. I'm not trolling or even gloating but my 2 penneth is this. The forward pass was a truly awful decision, and one that Ganson should even have seen himself from in-goal. We had moved from behind the sticks at half time and relocated in the corner, directly in line with the incident. Conservatively, the pass ended up about 3 feet forward, and Ganson immediately looked to his TJ. The real villan in the piece just ran to the corner so Ganson gave it.
There was a Hull fan sat behind me and I found myself apologising to him for such a gash decision. However, I certainly thought it was just mere consolation at the time. Seymour was the ultimate cause of your loss, as he put in a "Welham-esque" tackle attempt on Hodgson. I still can't work out why Sharp got burned for pace thereafter.
Heads up people, it was only 2 points, and if you play remotely to your potential you will be top 6, and bounce back to thump Saints. At the same time, we will revert to type and get humped by Wire. One final thing, I haven't read the full thread, but was there really any need to suggest that Dobson deserves a [i"good kicking[/i" for being a[i "cheating little turd[/i"? What was he supposed to do in the circumstances?
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| Quote ="SirStan"Morning Ladies, my 1st appearance on here since the game. I'm not trolling or even gloating but my 2 penneth is this. The forward pass was a truly awful decision, and one that Ganson should even have seen himself from in-goal. We had moved from behind the sticks at half time and relocated in the corner, directly in line with the incident. Conservatively, the pass ended up about 3 feet forward, and Ganson immediately looked to his TJ. The real villan in the piece just ran to the corner so Ganson gave it.
There was a Hull fan sat behind me and I found myself apologising to him for such a gash decision. However, I certainly thought it was just mere consolation at the time. Seymour was the ultimate cause of your loss, as he put in a "Welham-esque" tackle attempt on Hodgson. I still can't work out why Sharp got burned for pace thereafter.
Heads up people, it was only 2 points, and if you play remotely to your potential you will be top 6, and bounce back to thump Saints. At the same time, we will revert to type and get humped by Wire. One final thing, I haven't read the full thread, but was there really any need to suggest that Dobson deserves a [i"good kicking[/i" for being a[i "cheating little turd[/i"? What was he supposed to do in the circumstances?'"
I don't blame Dobsonat all, blame Ganson. As for Seymour/Sharp, their effort was poor at the end put they should not have been in that situation in the first place.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Morning Ladies, my 1st appearance on here since the game. I'm not trolling or even gloating but my 2 penneth is this. The forward pass was a truly awful decision, and one that Ganson should even have seen himself from in-goal. We had moved from behind the sticks at half time and relocated in the corner, directly in line with the incident. Conservatively, the pass ended up about 3 feet forward, and Ganson immediately looked to his TJ. The real villan in the piece just ran to the corner so Ganson gave it.
There was a Hull fan sat behind me and I found myself apologising to him for such a gash decision. However, I certainly thought it was just mere consolation at the time. Seymour was the ultimate cause of your loss, as he put in a "Welham-esque" tackle attempt on Hodgson. I still can't work out why Sharp got burned for pace thereafter.
Heads up people, it was only 2 points, and if you play remotely to your potential you will be top 6, and bounce back to thump Saints. At the same time, we will revert to type and get humped by Wire. One final thing, I haven't read the full thread, but was there really any need to suggest that Dobson deserves a =#0000FF[i"good kicking[/i" for being a[i "cheating little turd[/i"? What was he supposed to do in the circumstances?'"
Whoever said that is a bit silly imo.
Talking of poor refs, why wasn't there a big stink when Halibut gave a 20 mt restart after Sinfield jumped from the field of play and caught the ball in goal, then did a quick tap and Leeds went on to score a match clinching try?
Lots of poor refs unfortunately and it's just not getting better.
Lots of poor referees
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Just looked on YouTube to see wether the. Stretcher was on or if he was been carried off whilst Latus was scoring but there's nothing there YET, I'm not saying this didn't happen, but it seems a bit on the quick side if it did.
It looksed like he went down with cramp at the time so I'm not suprised the ref didn't stop it tbh. Usually when a serious injury happens the tacklers alert the ref, unfortunately for Tony Martin and Hull, this was a freakish injury that had none.
Having just seen the above post, scrap the first part of this post.'"
My Mrs noticed a player down and as we tried to work out who it was, I ignored the play so I saw all the movement from the physios. Almost as soon as the first one reached Martin, he signalled and the second one ran out, followed by the spinal board/stretcher. The first gesture was pretty clear that Martin wasn't taking any further part and the speed of movement from the rest indicated to me, albeit 70/80 metres away, that it was a serious injury. Whether play stops is up to the officials, but as long as they're consistent in future and we get some benefit, no complaints
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