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| Quote ="Big Dave T"and plenty of chance for some of the kids to stake a claim. I'm disappointed that some of them didnt get more game time last year and if you look at Wigan they seems to be calling kids up every week for debuts. I know there's a balance to strike but when we have a squad with less depth of experienced players i'd really hope to see more of Cunningham, Kent, Green, Jack Briscoe for example.
I think Cunningham is a future star based on his performance in France last year against a sizeable Catalans pack. Now's the time to give them some game time. I'd rather we finish 10th by playing the kids than 9th by panic buying.'"
I agree. Haven't seen as much of these kids as some, but frankly, what is the point of investing in them if they're never going to get a go. It would be difficult if we had to field several debutants all at once, but that wouldn't seem to be necessary. There may always be doubts about whether any player can step up to the next level, but you generally find out more by trying them. Personally I'd much rather see us play some of the youngsters, in their regular positions where they'll be more likely to be comfortable, playing alongside experienced heads also playing in their natural positions, rather than shuffle around "cover" players and end up with half a team playing out of position which has sometimes been the case in the last couple of seasons. I'm not saying we shouldn't recruit, but I don't think we should rush out in desperation when we have lads who have come through the ranks and who would give their all for the shirt and be supported by the fans who would recognise them for doing so.
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| So will we still hold his registration then or will that of gone when we terminated his contract?
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| Quote ="UllFC"
But in the medium/long term it shows that the club aren't willing to be taken for a ride by uncommitted players.'" And it is something that Hull FC want commending on.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"And it is something that Hull FC want commending on.'"
12 pages of it already.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"So will we still hold his registration then or will that of gone when we terminated his contract?'" I would imagine that terminating his contract would remove any rights you have to he registration.
If not you would end up the the stange situation of you getting rid of him and being able to claim a fee at a later date.
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| Quote ="UllFC"I agree, it weakens us in the short-term, but in the medium/long term it shows that the club aren't willing to be taken for a ride by uncommitted players.'"
spot on the right decision from the club , but obviously it leaves us so short that im really worried about the season ahead unless we can bring in players pretty soon. i dont know why the club havent gone for gareth moore hes young and english, cheap, proved himself at a good level in the championship and potentially could be a good halfback. yes we have nicko but now with his injury we aint going to see him this year and williams is nowere ready yet and with tansey gone surley moore is worth a punt and dual register him back out to batley. another suggestion ive made before greg mcnally again young,british and cheap and has the ability to play both fullback and halfback and i know hes contracted but surley a decent little fee and the oppitunity of game time at hull could tempt him.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"12 pages of it already.
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"maybe tansey fell on his sword?? who knows....'"
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| The club better make a statement
To the players sponsor
And those who bought "Tansey 1" shirts
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"The club better make a statement
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And those who bought "Tasney 1" shirts'"
I'll be sure to let them know your concerns.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"He's non-fed and quota basically. Plus had a few injury issues iirc. Don't think he has any dark secrets. Only reason I can imagine Hull being reluctant is if they have other irons in the fire (eg Sammut) or want to leave the space open in the hope that a top player becomes available mid-season.'"
Didn't think feds and quotas mattered to your lot whatsoever. THink you should stop harping on about it!
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Didn't think feds and quotas mattered to your lot whatsoever. THink you should stop harping on about it!'"
Of course they do. Other people's definition of their spirit, otoh...
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"The club better make a statement
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If they bought shirts with 'tasney' on then it's their own stupid fault.
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"The club better make a statement
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I'm sure the clubs have a statement regarding shirts at the very top of their to do list right now
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| Quote ="Panda92"If they bought shirts with 'tasney' on then it's their own stupid fault.'"
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| Quote ="Panda92"If they bought shirts with 'tasney' on =#FF0000then it's their own stupid fault.'"
what about tansey's shirt sponsor ??
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| Quote ="HFC Yorkie"I agree. Haven't seen as much of these kids as some, but frankly, what is the point of investing in them if they're never going to get a go. It would be difficult if we had to field several debutants all at once, but that wouldn't seem to be necessary. There may always be doubts about whether any player can step up to the next level, but you generally find out more by trying them. Personally I'd much rather see us play some of the youngsters, in their regular positions where they'll be more likely to be comfortable, playing alongside experienced heads also playing in their natural positions, rather than shuffle around "cover" players and end up with half a team playing out of position which has sometimes been the case in the last couple of seasons. I'm not saying we shouldn't recruit, but I don't think we should rush out in desperation when we have lads who have come through the ranks and who would give their all for the shirt and be supported by the fans who would recognise them for doing so.'"
additionallt to that sometimes we never see a players true ability until they are given a go in SL. Some very average U20s players make it big in 1st grade and vice versa. I'd like to even see Williams play in the halves this season to add to the other names. As you say, we wont need to put more than 1 or 2 of them in any given week and that's ideal to bring them on. It's better than playing 6 in once go in round 18 when we have injuries. It would be nice for at least 4 of those to have had 5 games each by then.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"additionallt to that sometimes we never see a players true ability until they are given a go in SL. Some very average U20s players make it big in 1st grade and vice versa. I'd like to even see Williams play in the halves this season to add to the other names. As you say, we wont need to put more than 1 or 2 of them in any given week and that's ideal to bring them on. It's better than playing 6 in once go in round 18 when we have injuries. It would be nice for at least 4 of those to have had 5 games each by then.'"
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| Quote ="Lee Tucker FC Fan 2006"what about tansey's shirt sponsor ??'"
We were discussing Tasney not Tansey
And if his shirt sponsor's any good, he might even get a run out in the shirt himself
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"A waste of talent and a fool to himself.Hull have been very fair with Tansey and he has thrown it back in the clubs face.This sends out a strong warning to anyone who thinks they can do what they like,that it will not be tolerated.This will make Hull stronger for the future and you have to take your hat off to them for sticking to their guns when ever a bad apple appears.'"
spot on,hes not irriplaceable tho is he mate.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"additionallt to that sometimes we never see a players true ability until they are given a go in SL. Some very average U20s players make it big in 1st grade and vice versa. I'd like to even see Williams play in the halves this season to add to the other names. As you say, we wont need to put more than 1 or 2 of them in any given week and that's ideal to bring them on. It's better than playing 6 in once go in round 18 when we have injuries. It would be nice for at least 4 of those to have had 5 games each by then.'"
You only have to look at Moa who was average at best the majority of the time according to a lot of people (Wilf included) Yet when he got his chance in the first team he was a different player.
Not sure if it is down to better class of players around them, or upping their game for the better opposition or just a subconscious thing.
Problem we have had is that Agar does not seem confident enough to play the younger lads in their preferred positions. The odds are if Williams gets to play 1st team football he will be on the wing or in the centres.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"additionallt to that sometimes we never see a players true ability until they are given a go in SL. Some very average U20s players make it big in 1st grade and vice versa. I'd like to even see Williams play in the halves this season to add to the other names. As you say, we wont need to put more than 1 or 2 of them in any given week and that's ideal to bring them on. It's better than playing 6 in once go in round 18 when we have injuries. It would be nice for at least 4 of those to have had 5 games each by then.'"
Served Wigan well last season.
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| two players with big salaries gone the board must have something up their sleeve,it is a pity though that the talent jt had couldn,t be nurtured will probably sign for the dobbins morgan a big fan of trouble
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| Quote ="easthullairliebird"two players with big salaries gone the board must have something up their sleeve,it is a pity though that the talent jt had couldn,t be nurtured will probably sign for the dobbins morgan a big fan of trouble'"
great shame,but only got himself to blame,silly boy..
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| Quote ="knocker norton"icon_thumb.gif Served Wigan well last season.'"
Yup, said that 2 posts earlier.
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