Hand on heart, do you really see us being part of the middle eights drama.

With Bowden, Griffin, Carlos, Talanoa, Sneyd, and Abdull missing the next 7 games (plus Connor and Kelly are doubts), then winning a couple more games won't be as easy as some people believe.

And leeds and cas's form won't help if the bottom 4 pick up points we'd have expected them to drop.

It's certainly a possibility - YEP discussing today that Leeds are at risk so why we wouldn't be I don't know. The bottom teams apart from Widnes are upping their game whilst we are losing players long term left right and centre. Assuming we are safe is either complacency or arrogance IMO and I hope we don't fall into the trap Warrington and Leeds did previously.

I think I would be a tad arrogant if I didn't think it was a real possibility, for in our current quite unprecedented demise injury wise it becomes pretty feasible. I have been on about it since the injuries sustained in the Cas game and last weeks win over the hapless Rovers was a massive two points for me.

When really young or inexperienced players get a sustained run in a team they start well but often find it hard to sustain that level of performance but for the next 6 weeks that's all we have really. Although as a previous poster has pointed out you are counting on the bottom 4 winning just about all their games and they do play each other in the next seven matches, but it is certainly a distinct possibility and when Salford Widnes and Rovers arrive at the KCOM they will be really desperate for the points so the sooner we get another two or three ourselves the easier I will be. However going through the next 7 games without getting any at all has to be a possibility.

I accept that we could lose all 7. I think it's extremely unlikely, but stranger things have happened. But I don't think that 2 of the current bottom 5 can win enough games for it to matter.

unless we get more injuries imo I think we still have enough in our squad to win 3 more matches,

once we get Bureta and Kelly back the balance of the side will be better.
Connor can go to centre and we will look stronger in the outside backs.
I think we will finish 6th or 7th. We may not win it from there, but with the players returning at the back end of the season we may shake things up a bit.

Do you really expect the bottom 4 who have won an average of 3/4 games out of 15/16 to suddenly win 5/7 get real your safe lets put this nonsense to bed

It only needs Huddersfield, salford and cats (with a game in hand) to win 4 games, and they'll all catch us up.
And only 2 of them need to.
So that's 2 teams out of 5, not 4 out of 4.

Leeds, cas and wakefield are already close enough to us (and have games in hand).

Can’t believe the negativity on here , not sure if it’s to wind certain people up ! At the minute the table doesn’t look that bad, and surely with weeks passing by we’ll start getting bodies back . Even at the split , if we’re within touching distance of 4th and with a fully fit squad , I’d still fancy us to win get to the grand final / win it .

…. It's not negativity, it's what [icould[/i happen - who do you expect back before the super 8's ??

Kelly and Taylor plus Farimao will be available again.

Even if just Kelly, Taylor and Faraimo are back we have a side capable of beating most teams. Hopefully Carlos and Talanoa will be ready to return by then too.

If we have a chance of dropping into the middle 8s then Leeds must be in serious trouble. Where is their next win coming from? Why is it just assumed that they will catch us when they have far bigger issues than we do?

Farimao Kelly Taylor Carlos at least , plus Leeds cas and Warrington will drop points too . If we are within 4/6 points of 4th with 7 games to play with a nearly fit squad I’d back us , as I think we have the best squad in the league!

This is why i’m glad we have so many home grown players in the squad. Alot more chance they will stick around to get us straight back up from the championship.

Your forgetting that we all have to play each other also what you have is a team sitting in 4th place and it's fans worrying about been in the bottom 4 with only 7 games left before the split do you really think you won't turn one of us , Widnes or Salford over at home come on it's getting embarrassing now

Of course it's a worry. Being in the Middle 8s is a nail in any club's genuine quality recruitment coffin and we are 10 players down (or something like that). Who would want to sleepwalk into a death match against hierarchy golden children Toronto or Toulouse? I think we all know how the 50/50 calls will go.


Every SL club's number 1 goal is top 8. It is ours and we are not there yet.

Are you trying to suggest something other than fair refereeing? Because that would be quite a statement.

It's like the oft-repeated assertion that Top 4 clubs get all the 50/50 calls.

Last I read, Carlos was out until the end of July.
Is Connor ok?, he did his hamstring last week.

End of July is roughly when the 8's start.

So before wires we had won 8 out of 10, we are 4th, havnt lost at home this year, have to play 3 of the bottom 5 at home, should have players coming back, I really cant see us being anywhere near the middle 8s,

Final round before the split is 26th-29th July. The following weekend the Cup semi finals take place and the Super 8s start the weekend beginning Thursday 9th August.

Nobody expects Hull to be in the middle 8s, including those pointing out that it remains a possibility. That’s kind of the point. It’s about making an event of avoiding them if this season looks like it might start to fizzle out a little, and then contrasting the benefits of your situation with those who finish 9-12.

At this point last year we were 5th although had a point more than we currently have. We only had three more home games before the split though compared to five this season.