I've only seen Chase and Holdsworth in a handful of games and highlights every week (as I suspect most non Cas and Salford fans do), and IMO they are excellent in flashes and anonymous at others. They are not showstopping for 80 minutes as the weakness of the teams around them don't enable them to be. Pretty much like Berrigan, then.

Yeah but he is a local lad so tends to come in for stick regardless. He should have left Hul when his last contract came up and gone to Saints, Leeds, Wigan or Wire, they would all have wanted him and he could have shown what can do.

He just comes in for stick off people who go on radio reports and dont see him in the flesh.

You notice a big difference when Yeaman ISNT playing.

Yes, Paul - that's the only reason I don't rate him. I just hate any player born in Hull.

Well I suppose it's [ipossible[/i that he's just had an off day almost every time I've seen him since he debuted. Doesn't seem very likely though.


Indeed. Possibly not in the way that you mean, mind.

I said that? I never actually meant you specifically Kosh, the thing is there is a tendency these days to knock Yeaman and like Baldy said when he doesn't play we miss him. He has faults in his game yes but still does a good job on limited service.

IMO his faults outweigh his strengths ATM - and for the last several seasons. We miss him because we lack options at centre rather than because of his quality per se. The service thing is a slight Red Herring as well IMO as he fails to make the best of what service he does get and almost aggressively fails to back up breaks.

Anyway - I didn't intend to turn this into any kind of attack or even critique of Yeaman. I'm sure there'll be plenty of opportunities to discuss his performances next season.

Slow of foot on one side, slow of thought on the other.

Each to their own opinion but we missed him in the Rovers game badly imo. He and Berrigan would provide a very good centre pairing. As I said he has faults but we very rarely give him the ball in any kind of space. His support play is his worst attribute but other than that he does a good job.

Nice back track.

Maybe you'd like to list his faults.

I've already said I didn't want to make this a thread about Yeaman's shortcomings, but since you asked...

Doesn't back up.
Not alert to opportunities.
Rarely puts his winger away.
Not fast enough.
Not tall enough.
Doesn't have good hands.
Rarely creates opportunities himself.
Shoots out of the line for a big hit and misses a little too often for me.
Can drift out of games.

On the flip side...

Can run some good lines.
Difficult to put down.
Deadly on the end of a short pass near the try line.
Generally sound defence with the exception noted above.

I actually like Yeaman. He comes across as a good lad who is very dedicated to/passionate about the club, and has some good facets to his game if used correctly. I just don't think that he is, or will ever be, a top class centre.

Well you must have had a limited veiwing of him....yes he has faults and will never bea Barnett snr but he isnt as bad as what you make him out to be......he will never be a creative centre...he isnt built for that,he is a crash centre and a bloody good one as well "IF" he gets the service...something he hasnt had since Cooke legged it......like most things in our team..we dont play to his strengths.

May be a waste of time typing this as your opinion counts and you seem to dismiss others.

Possibly you could point me to where I've 'dismissed' anyone's opinion of Yeaman, or presented my views on him as anything other than my opinion?

I agree that he's a good 'crash centre'. I also agree that we don't play to his strengths. That still leaves too many shortcomings IMO. Centres should be more than just short-range threats on the end of a crash ball - that's what second-row forwards are for.

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Short range......seen Yeaman go in from distance a few times and he isnt as slow as some think.

I meant your views overall....i rember my thoughts on the play-off defeat and Saying long was in Dobsons back pocket and the reasoned debate of you was....whatever and a threat of a ban.

Yeaman as a youngster was a very skilful strike player in the academy, he was given his debut under McRae and was too small and not strong enough at SL level, he bulked up a bit and came back strong enough, because of the players we had he played a bit of back row and bulked up further, a bit too much in my opinion, playing outside Cooke he ran good lines and with his strengh and fend scored a lot of tries and was very effective, without that quality service I don't think he offers too much else though, he is still a decent player but I don't think we will ever see him regain his form of 2006.

Yet you thought Craig Hall could be!

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' comment, I was actually joking. Just to clear up! I am a big fan of Yeaman and still rate him very highly.

I still think Hall has the skill set to be a top class centre. What's let him down is mental toughness. I guess we'll see if he ever overcomes that and realises his potential.

As to your other points, we'll have to agree to disagree. Yeaman may yet prove me wrong and become the centre we've been lacking since Barnett Snr retired. I personally doubt it but I guess stranger things have happened.

He's not sharp enough mentally for me. Part of the reason his backing up is poor is because he gets taken by surprise too often or is in the wrong place on the field to be able to back up a move.

But he is alert when he scores from kicks or makes the short run off Manu. I think the problem is people remember Barnett and there are not many centres if any in the whole of SL that could lace his boots.

That may be part of it, but IMO there have been and continue to be plenty of better centres in SL than Yeaman. Granted not many of them are English, as the recent display in the 4 Nations rather clearly demonstrated.

Which is why I still maintain Yeaman is still one of the top centres in this country, along with Senior, Gleeson, Atkins and Shenton, all much of a muchness.

Agree with that, apart from Atkins. He's a liability IMO.