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| Quote ="B0NES"It something he'd obviously have to work on "if" he ever moved into that position .'"
He's not that kind of player, as PAULM has said, he's a centre, never be anything else.
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| A few years ago, I think it was in the Sharpe era, there was a plan to move Yeamo to the 2nd row and he trained there all pre-season. then the usual injuries struck and they had to play him in the centres again and it never happened.
At the time it was said that Yeamo had one of the best "engines" of anyone at the club and relished more involvement and hard work.
I reckon he could go well there, Glilmour and others have moved from centre to second row successfully late in their careers.
Mind you, I still think he's the best cenntre we've got, for the timebeing
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| Quote ="The Prof"A few years ago, I think it was in the Sharpe era, there was a plan to move Yeamo to the 2nd row and he trained there all pre-season. then the usual injuries struck and they had to play him in the centres again and it never happened.
At the time it was said that Yeamo had one of the best "engines" of anyone at the club and relished more involvement and hard work.
I reckon he could go well there, Glilmour and others have moved from centre to second row successfully late in their careers.
Mind you, I still think he's the best cenntre we've got, for the timebeing'"
You sure that was Yeamo, and not Whiting?
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| Like I said before, size isn't important for a second rower, it's generally strength and good defence and a few other components of fitness. People need to give there head a bang if they say he doesn't work hard enough to be a second rower. He hasn't been given the opportunity and that hasn't been proven. What centres can you look at and see they have decent work rate? I'm not saying he should be second row, he is best suited to be a centre but some people's excuses are stupid and clearly have poor knowledge of RL.
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| Quote ="jehull"Like I said before, size isn't important for a second rower, it's generally strength and good defence and a few other components of fitness. People need to give there head a bang if they say he doesn't work hard enough to be a second rower. He hasn't been given the opportunity and that hasn't been proven. What centres can you look at and see they have decent work rate? I'm not saying he should be second row, he is best suited to be a centre but some people's excuses are stupid and clearly have poor knowledge of RL.'"
I'd suggest some people have way more knowledge of RL than you.
The "your'e wrong, because I'm right" argument is about 50 years out of date.
Yeaman is a good centre, he'll never be a 2nd row, and I doubt he'll ever want to be, it doesn't suit his persona.
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| Quote ="Standee"You sure that was Yeamo, and not Whiting?'"
It was tried with Yeaman as well, but I think it was as far back as McRae's last year. IIRC, it was also said that his concentration over 80 minutes was not up to scratch (at that time) and playing shorter stints in the back row may have suited him better. It was an experiment rapidly put paid to by Eagar breaking his arm.
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| Don't subscribe to this 'doesn't work hard enough to be a 2nd row' theory.
What centre does?
I think he could make a very decent 2nd rower but we would have to see if he could manage the extra workload.
Not say he doesn't now so never will be able to.
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| Quote ="davey37"Don't subscribe to this 'doesn't work hard enough to be a 2nd row' theory.
What centre does?
I think he could make a very decent 2nd rower but we would have to see if he could manage the extra workload.
Not say he doesn't now so never will be able to.'"
I agree. There were many doubts about Whiting coping with the workload, and then again about the workload through the middle. You'll never know for sure until you try it.
Having said that, I don't personally think that he'd be as good a backrower as he has been a centre.
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| Many centre's go on to play in the second row so I don't think the transition is that great tbh. Also Carl Spacker was right , It was under McRea.
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| I notice that there are a couple of people on here that said the same about whiting, I honestley think he has all the attributes to make a very good backrow forward, he is strong and has good defence. Their isn't must difference in size to Liam Farrell who doesn't seem too bad does he?
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| Are centre and 2nd row that different these days? Beaver, tai, whitehead,Nero, Gilmour, senior, Delaney and our own whiting all recently changed or interchanged between. Yeamo runs good lines hard to put down and hits like any forward. An off season specifically with the goal of 2nd row ie specific training n putting a few pounds on and I imagine he'd go well. Generally 1 of the fittest in the team, so not sure how people can say he couldn't manage the work load,and a tough player that opposition players don't like playing against!
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| Quote ="Standee"I'd suggest some people have way more knowledge of RL than you.
The "your'e wrong, because I'm right" argument is about 50 years out of date.
Yeaman is a good centre, he'll never be a 2nd row, and I doubt he'll ever want to be, it doesn't suit his persona.'"
Did I say I was right. My opinion, get over it. I just said size doesn't matter to be a second row. People have said he hasn't the size and work rate which is nonsense or do you agree with that? Personally i think it's nonsense.
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| Spot on Carl Spackler on all counts. The plan to put Yeaman in the pack was under McRea; it was said that he had concentration lapses; and it was Eager's injury that put paid to it. Better memory than me mate.
I still think Yeaman could do a job in the 2nd row, but with Ellis, Whiting, Westerman, Kent Hadlee and all the props who are comfortable in the back row, would we ned to move him? And that's if Tickle actually goes this time.
Another thought, if we are moving anyone from backs to forwards, what about Jason Crookes?
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| Yeaman would get ran over in the forwards, his tackling is based on power and how hard he hits. Against bigger forwards he wouldn't have that advantage.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Yeaman would get ran over in the forwards, his tackling is based on power and how hard he hits. Against bigger forwards he wouldn't have that advantage.'"
Cannot agree with this. Yeaman has smashed forwards plenty of times and hit backs in ways they've never been hit by forward or back. Also I'd imagine if he was to play 2nd he'd pack a few pounds on himself.
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Cannot agree with this. Yeaman has smashed forwards plenty of times and hit backs in ways they've never been hit by forward or back. Also I'd imagine if he was to play 2nd he'd pack a few pounds on himself.'"
Not sure he needs more muscle, the centres that have successfully moved inside have typically been the taller type. I'm not saying he [icouldn't[/i play 2nd row, I just don't think his size and body shape would let him compete in the forwards on a consistent basis.
What everyone seems to be missing is why would we move him? He's an international centre and we have Ellis, Westerman, Whiting, Kent & Hadley for the back row, with even Bowden, Green & Pitts to play 13 if that's how we want to go. I'd rather we signed a proven 2nd rower.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Not sure he needs more muscle, the centres that have successfully moved inside have typically been the taller type. I'm not saying he [icouldn't[/i play 2nd row, I just don't think his size and body shape would let him compete in the forwards on a consistent basis.
What everyone seems to be missing is why would we move him? He's an international centre and we have Ellis, Westerman, Whiting, Kent & Hadley for the back row, with even Bowden, Green & Pitts to play 13 if that's how we want to go. I'd rather we signed a proven 2nd rower.'"
Agree in all respects.
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| Think this thread is a bit irrelevant as even if Tickle does go, we will have plenty of cover in back row as previous posters have pointed out. If Miller is signed up then just need to sign up Shaul and then concentrate our efforts and cap space in signing a big nasty Peaa type prop then job done, world domination here we come!!
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Yeaman has smashed forwards plenty of times and hit backs in ways they've never been hit by forward or back.'"
I am sure you can evidence this, somehow?
I wait to see......
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| Quote ="Standee"I am sure you can evidence this, somehow?
I wait to see......'"
See Scot Grix for details.....
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| Quote ="Standee"I am sure you can evidence this, somehow?
I wait to see......'"
Grix he totally annihilated.
Howell for London bout 2yrs ago had to leave the field
Gleeson when at wire away left him on the ground nearly in half
Think it was Karl Pryce last game before union move, yeaman smashed him a couple of times, put him in touch,an ran all over him. Destroyed him all night.
Others throughout his career. Physicality isn't what he'd lack at 2nd row
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| Quote ="Standee"I am sure you can evidence this, somehow?
I wait to see......'"
You are saying some silly things today.
If you have never seen Yeaman put someone on their backside from a bit hit, you haven't seen many hull games.
How do you want him evidence it? Watch ever hull game and provide you with a link to the exact moment it happen.
You really need to think before you post.
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Grix he totally annihilated.
Howell for London bout 2yrs ago had to leave the field
Gleeson when at wire away left him on the ground nearly in half
Think it was Karl Pryce last game before union move, yeaman smashed him a couple of times, put him in touch,an ran all over him. Destroyed him all night.
Others throughout his career. Physicality isn't what he'd lack at 2nd row'"
They're all backs.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"They're all backs.'"
Yup. These are just ones that stick out in my head, hit dozens over the yrs but these are the best I can remember.
Although they're backs none exactly small barring grix n I can't remember having seen the same players smashed by anybody else as heavily.
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| Had a good game tonight, in both attack and defence. Showed his pace to set up Briscoe's try as well. Ellis will bring the best out of that side.
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