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I'm afraid ill not be going on Friday night because of the start to the season we have had. I'm gutted that I won't be there supporting my club but I just can't bring myself to going because I feel like the club have lead me along with the stupid comments made. bigger, faster, stronger sounds like a quote from an Avengers movie. I love Hull but swore on Saturday night that ill not offer them my support until they can deliver on their promise.

After five games, and only one really poor performance?

I reckon that , that game has wiped god knows how many of the gate this week . Every one who took part last week has to shoulder the blame that includes the management side as well . I reckon that as a punishment Lee Radford should spar with any person who gives penalties away , or does some thing Fxxking stupid . Bet that would stop it

No after five years of the same old crap on and off the field. I have to choose where I spend my hard earned cash and I expect value for money. For the last five seasons I've not had this.

On Niklas, I'd sack him. Taking a pop at team mates on twitter regardless of how bad they are isn't acceptable. Besides which he's rubbish and won't achieve a fraction of what Seymour has in his career.

Must admit that was my initial reaction on Saturday. What a pathetic way of behaving as a so called professional.

The worrying thing is the Niklas comment just shows that some of the players have no respect for one and other. Not a great foundation for building a strong unified team. I fear that things will get worse before they improve (I hope I am wrong)

That the problem most of the time 2 to 1 ,
Lineham should take Carney and Arundle marks Webster, Horne / another should take the floating player
the defence is not working correctly yet, they seem to go up and then stop, letting the other team attack them which is not going to work, the centre/wingers are not getting the support from their second row/ loose forward so are been left out to dry

Although we hit you hard early in the second half on Saturday the game hinged on Flynn's interception just before half time. You were pressing hard and if Flynn hadn't taken it you would have gone in at least 16 : 4 ahead. Not saying we wouldn't have given it a go in the second half, but you would have gone in happy enough with your lead and our heads would have been down!

As it turned out your heads dropped and we were elated to be only 2 points down! We came out all guns blazing with Mr Hock having a great game and you fell away (not sure if there is a fitness issue, or you just don't like coming to play us!). On the plus side you still have Holdsworth to come back, we were glad he didn't play and of course Ellis, so you have still got plenty to look forward to!

I want a win. A good performance would be a bonus but we need points.

Paper over the cracks.

Agree WV., Good assessment of the game.
Reading some of fc fans postings just do not get their blinkered views of we are only 5 games in to the season crap.
FC imploded same game last year at widnes.
The gap ! as Gentle calls it between our Worst and Best is still as Big as ever and we are now into the 2nd season !

Can anyone see any difference from our playing style to when under Agar`s. That same old inside pass

Not having a go, but I find it strange that somebody that sat through the Agar era would give up after five games, that's all.

To be fair its not just 5 games in though is it as Gentle has been in charge since the beginning of last season, admittedly with Agars signings but still had a season to change alot of what was wrong and bring in his own signings etc.

The game at Widnes was either just an unfortunate game where anything and everything that could go wrong did or just highlighted the problems the club still has re getting a decent product on to the pitch consistently.

Trouble at Mill re Twitter. Cannot have that it's wrong. Clearly dissent in the camp. Needs stamping out / players sacking.
Crowds will be down now. Needs a performance from the players, motivation from Gentle. Quick clarification on the Seymour situation. Either he stays and we get behind him, or he goes. Another Thorman esque situation will ruin the club for another 2/3 years IMO

Nowt like getting behind the team when thinks arnt going well

I think its a bit of both tbh.

We've had the makings of some decent performances this season and some horrors, but we still have problems. Losing Ellis before a ball was kicked in anger has had more of an impact than I thought it would, and not having a settled half back pairing hasn't helped (hands up who thought Seymour would have a good game on Sat?). Holdsworth and Horne looked decent together, but players will get injured and we have to have a back up plan. With respect to Seymour (who I liked the look of in his first year - in parts) he isn't the back up plan, unfortunately.

The inside ball to to the second row (that NEVER works) has returned with the return of Tickle (and don't get me wrong I think he's a great player), and needs to be stopped. Why do we not use it when he isn't in the side??????

I'm not doubting Gentle, although I was never really an "in Gentle we trust" disciple, but I still found it odd that Green and Crooks were left out on Sat. Did we think Widnes = easy?

I was in Leeds a lot at the weekend and on Sunday saw a car with a Rhinos sticker in the window, which, Pavlov's dog style, made me boo and mutter "we all hate Leeds". But then I thought "why?" Yes they beat us a lot and it was awesome to smash them last year, but [uthey are the club we should be aspiring to be.[/u We have a fantastic (with notable exceptions) fanbase. We have a decent coaching set up. We have a brilliant stadium. We have a decent set of players. We've got rid of what was holding us back (the last board and Agar imo). What is stopping us trying to be like Leeds? Solve that one and we could be up there challenging.

cant argue with that chris

Thats the BIG question and worry though I think Chris. Like you say we have changed everything, owner, coach, players, physio/conditioner, training facilities etc infact everything has changed except the kitchen sink but yet the same failings are still there and at times show themselves all at once.

Gentle has all the credentials and qualifications for the job, we have a decent squad of players that still needs some work on but still good enough to be returning better performances and an owner who wants the club to be a success so whats the issue?

Both were carrying knocks.


We are [itrying[/i to be like Leeds. We don't yet have the playing staff and we're years behind them on the development and investment side. Simple as that. These issues are not going to be fixed in a season or even two or three.

We haven't changed enough players IMO. The side that played Widnes had a familiar look to it and unsurprisingly played in a similar manner.

Green and Crooks were both injured according to Gentle after the game and Gentle said it would be anything but easy at Widnes last week in the press.

Hull's main problem is a lack of rugby intelligence in the players and leadership in the halves. It has been like that mostly since Cooke left. Holdsworth is an intelligent player but we need another one of that ilk. Ellis might well have steadied us on Saturday had he been playing but, despite all efforts in the close season to alleviate this known problem, the issue remains.

It's not a lot more complicated than that I don't think.

Some players are good enough and clever enough and possess the skills to go out and ensure that the coach's game plan is enacted. They're usually half backs who handle the ball and dictate how and where the play takes shape. Other players follow and if the job is being orchestrated well by the organisers then the performance of these other players often improves towards the top of their ability. The opposite is also true - a lack of leadership and direction causes good players to fall below their normal standard. Widnes away has been a classic example of this for the last two seasons with otherwise decent pros flapping about dropping the ball/letting it go over their heads etc.

Take our organiser signing Holdsworth out of the team and why would anyone really think that things would be massively different to last year and those before ? We need more brains, skill and flair in the key positions and a bit more strike. We have to do better with recruitment going forward but it aint easy with what's on offer out there.

I agree with you to an extent Kosh but still feel we have changed enough even if not a great change but at least a little something away from the old habits.

I do wonder though if losing Sam has had a bigger impact on the team then anyone realised it would with his go forward and ability to really punch holes through the opposition? This being compounded at the moment with the abscence of Watts.

We looked good in a lot of games last season without Moa.