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| Quote ="R.B.A"Good move for all parties in my opinion. Hull get a playmaker that you are crying out for. The pressure will be taken off Agar because he can now start talking up "next" season. Thorman will be able to move to his natural position of stand off. Saints get a big earner off the cap and can bring some more youngsters into the squad. Long gets a nice final contract to top up his pension.
Everyones a winner.'"
I suppose.. but i can't imagine Thormans defence improving just because he's now playing at stand off.
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| Quote ="Fc Til I Die 316"funny....just great timing from fc's point of view...the board will sell a few thousand more tickets now for the match...paying for himself already'"
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| Quote ="Whiting"It's called a contract. You can't just "get rid", unless you want to pay a lump sum.'"
i dont think fc's contracts are that good...2 examples Cooke (judas) carvell (judas) Reardon (dint even start) were not known for our excellent contracts are we...just surprises me how fc keep making themselves look like fools...we will see if he even gets here hows that
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| Have to say that looking at the bigger this is potentially a great signing.
He will be able to bring on the younger players. Offering his experience and teaching them how to step up to the next level, which is sadly lacking at the club at the moment.
So with Fitz teaching the forwards and Long the backs we may just start to see the potential that the youngsters at the club have coming to fruition. I am certain that Lee will develop under Long.
I am also certain that with Long by his side Horney will develop into the international half that he should be.
We still need a top class coach to bond that learning together.
Plus I might add one or two other changes in personel.
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| Quote ="Fc Til I Die 316"i dont think fc's contracts are that good...2 examples Cooke (judas) carvell (judas) Reardon (dint even start) were not known for our excellent contracts are we...just surprises me how fc keep making themselves look like fools...we will see if he even gets here hows that'"
your avatar seems to contradict your sentiments...
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| Quote ="Whiting"How much cap did we have left?
Cusack, thorman and tony are going (so far).
We also have the cap from crocker.
And we've already bought Fitzgibbon and Long. Who won't have been cheap.
Is there enough for a huge signing?'"
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"TBH I can see some major changes in the squad for next season and the team structure. Long has been playing in a team that expresses itself and plays a little off the cuff.
Both teams play similar clearing sets (as do most teams tbf), but its there where the similarities between Hull and Saints end. I think deep down Agar is the right man for Hull if he has total control of team structure and tactics as i believe his instincts as a coach and Longs as a player are very much alike.
Will certainly be interesting to see who else is on the radar because this signing could persuade others to come who may not otherwise have done.'"
Some good points there. And I hope you're right about Agar as it's looking like he'll still be coach for 2010 at least.
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| You lucky people, we've had him pi$$ off so many fans over the years with his cocky swagger. I hope he has 2 good years in Hell, but no cups please
Good Luck Longy we'll miss ya
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Plus Byrne already gone. 2-3 fringe players released may add up to one decent one too.
I have a sneaky suspicion Tony will get another deal though, actually.'"
I read Tony wants to go back to the NRL.
Hopefully yes, i forgot about Byrne.
I don't want to see Lee Burnett Maloney Thackray or Whiting go though. Two year deals all round except Burnett and Maloney with perhaps 3 or 4
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| Quote ="Fc Til I Die 316"i dont think fc's contracts are that good...2 examples Cooke (judas) carvell (judas) Reardon (dint even start) were not known for our excellent contracts are we...just surprises me how fc keep making themselves look like fools...we will see if he even gets here hows that'"
jason smith, tony grimaldi richard swain ect ect ect
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"
Will certainly be interesting to see who else is on the radar because this signing could persuade others to come who may not otherwise have done.'"
i think i might use that phrase
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"TBH I can see some major changes in the squad for next season and the team structure. Long has been playing in a team that expresses itself and plays a little off the cuff.
Both teams play similar clearing sets (as do most teams tbf), but its there where the similarities between Hull and Saints end. I think deep down Agar is the right man for Hull if he has total control of team structure and tactics as i believe his instincts as a coach and Longs as a player are very much alike.
Will certainly be interesting to see who else is on the radar because this signing could persuade others to come who may not otherwise have done.'"
That thought crossed my mind too, particularly those of an attack-minded viewpoint. Here's another potential bonus; if Agar can get over whatever his beef with Hall is, he could perhaps shine a bit more in the right centre spot with the improved supply.
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| Quote ="Whiting"I read Tony wants to go back to the NRL.
Hopefully yes, i forgot about Byrne.
I don't want to see Lee Burnett Maloney Thackray or Whiting go though. Two year deals all round except Burnett and Maloney with perhaps 3 or 4'"
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| Quote ="Fc Til I Die 316"i dont think fc's contracts are that good...2 examples Cooke (judas) carvell (judas) Reardon (dint even start) were not known for our excellent contracts are we...just surprises me how fc keep making themselves look like fools...we will see if he even gets here hows that'"
Cooke didn't sign the contract. Carvell didn't want to play for us anymore, so we happily got 50k from it. Reardon didn't pass a fitness test.
I know what you mean, but they are all different situations
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| Reserving opinion until all other pieces are in place.
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| Quote ="Danny 2"when did we sign him then
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| Quote ="Fc Til I Die 316"i dont think fc's contracts are that good...2 examples Cooke (judas) carvell (judas) Reardon (dint even start) were not known for our excellent contracts are we...just surprises me how fc keep making themselves look like fools...we will see if he even gets here hows that'"
Without digressing too much. Carvell signed then his missus changed his mind. What did the club do wrong there.?
Reardon signed subject to medical, which he failed. The problem with that signing was that we shouted about it from the rooftops before the medical was complete.
Judas.......least said the better, though I will remind you that he was still accepting his pay and he has been found guilty of breaches, not us.
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| Quote ="Whiting"Cooke didn't sign the contract. Carvell didn't want to play for us anymore, so we happily got 50k from it. Reardon didn't pass a fitness test.
I know what you mean, but they are all different situations'"
agreed...fair enough then we shall see. if i were in charge i would release Tony and put Horne at full back
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| Quote ="Fc Til I Die 316"i dont think fc's contracts are that good...2 examples Cooke (judas) carvell (judas) Reardon (dint even start) were not known for our excellent contracts are we...just surprises me how fc keep making themselves look like fools...we will see if he even gets here hows that'"
Has that Dobbin got on your account again? That's one of the biggest loads of tripe I've seen in a while.
Cooke's contract was messed up. Carvell signed a contract, then decided to leave. At least we got a fee instead of him going for free as, wait for it, he had a contract.
Reardon failed an extended fitness test. Nowt to do with his contract - in fact the contract thankfully had a clause in it allowing us to get rid.
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| Quote ="Whiting"Sorry i forgot my punctuationicon_wink.gif'"
spelling more like
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"That thought crossed my mind too, particularly those of an attack-minded viewpoint. Here's another potential bonus; if Agar can get over whatever his beef with Hall is, he could perhaps shine a bit more in the right centre spot with the improved supply.'"
I don't think Agar has a beef with Hall. I think Hall needed time to recover his confidence after playing so poorly when he helped us out at Full back. I'm hoping we'll see him again soon at centre.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"i think i might use that phrase
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| Quote ="Fc Til I Die 316"agreed...fair enough then we shall see. if i were in charge i would release Tony and put Horne at full back'"
Me too
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| Quote ="Kosh"Has that Dobbin got on your account again? That's one of the biggest loads of tripe I've seen in a while.
Cooke's contract was messed up. Carvell signed a contract, then decided to leave. At least we got a fee instead of him going for free as, wait for it, he had a contract.
Reardon failed an extended fitness test. Nowt to do with his contract - in fact the contract thankfully had a clause in it allowing us to get rid.'"
Fair play then. Didnt realise that Reardon was like it was...Carvell whouldnt have signed if he didnt want to stay and neither should Judas
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