Everyone except Satae was rubbish.

Leeds looked miles better, you could tell from the first set they were going to win, but it shouldn't have been by such margin.
Would anyone be bothered if Hodgson was sacked, not the right coach for us at this moment in time. People talk about building floor the future, but I don't think he uses young players correctly
A

Shaul's attitude to being moved out onto the wing rightly or wrongly was terrible. Certainly seems that when the going gets tough certain players attitude goes too

If we could you would be looking to move on Taylor, Shaul, Houghton and Griffin, we aren't getting value for money and all will be around 6 figures.

But would another coach have the option to ditch certain players? Reading between the lines I can see a few going out of the door. Whatever coach we have is going to have a job on his hands. Clearly some need to go. Throw in the injuries and it's the perfect storm. IMO Hodgson isn't going anywhere just yet

For me personally its the same old I'm afraid another season that is destined to spiral downwards with plenty of defeats ahead. Depleted team, having to draft in youngsters, lacking in confidence, missing Key players, poor refereeing etc etc excuse after excuse but it doesn't wash anymore with the long suffering fans who have seen this all before. That was an abysmal result against a depleted and struggling Leeds team. Once again as has been the case so often in recent seasons when the going is tough the lack of mental strength attitude and tenacity is endemic across the playing group, particularly when we go behind. That's a cultural thing in the organisation that hasn't really been addressed and something that just hasn't changed for years.

I dread what team we might have out against Rovers. Answers on a postcard

Mental toughness yet our defence coach is Ellis. As I say IMO time for players to be cut free

He won't I agree, but he should if we can afford it, we have injuries, but no trys last week, losing at Wakey when comfy and having 60 put on us at home against an underperforming Leeds.

Balmorth coming on with 20 minutes to go when the gane is lost.

80 minutes for Houghton and Johnstone. Messing about with Shail and Mcintosh.

Guy is out of his depth um afraid.

Erm, , you really need to read posts more thoroughly, when you take the time read them,I didn’t say Trueman was coming in this week, I said he was coming in early depending on wether Wire sign a player. As I said earlier Shaul was gash all the game, far to slow now. I’ve also gone on record to say your spite regards Griffin knows no bounds, when you accused him of wearing a boot in the stands, to try to cover for him being dropped after the Dobbins game. We’re you at the game today because as far as I could see there were a lot of empty seats and even more with 10 minutes to go, I should know because as a true FC fan, I always stay to the bitter end.

I’d like to think the number of local lads in hulls squad that Hodgson won’t need to motivate them.
A derby win is only thing left for us to look forward to this season
The players are not only the dumbest but slowest in superleague

It’s simple - move Brett on
Simple

I’ve suspected for a while that AP may even be part of the ‘mental’ problem at FC

He is Brett’s manager and he can’t seem to get the best out of him or any other head coach we’ve had.

I’ve worked for many big Corps and yes the CEO is also accountable and fish do rot from the head !

Sack Brett and AP really needs to have a real look at himself

Dead club at the moment, perpetually 6th place but never going to win anything, ground rent kiling the finances. Fan base bored stiff, where do we go from here?

Clear problem with the seniors in the team for me as touched upon by Dan Tomlinson.

I look at Shaul, Houghton and Griffin,Taylor who should be rallying this team when it gets tough and leading byexample, and all I'm seeing is terrible body language and a real lack of effort at times. When you sense abit of a Totton core and mentality at the club the above are the issue.

Be brave Hodgson and move them on or phase them out, or lose your job simple.

Give Lovodua and Balmforth the hooking roles.

Boy do we need Connor back to replace Shaul.

Sign another prop and let Taylor go.

Move Griffin on as he's an error machine and attitude in defence has worsened.

Wont be a popular opinion as some are poster boys to board members, but tough decisions have to be made in sport and its one that's been delayed 1 season too many.

The match stats are as grim as you might imagine. Fifty one missed tackles. Six each for Johnstone and Sao. Wynne missed more tackles than he completed.

Taylor just two carries, Lovodua somehow managed an average gain of two metres.

The Stats show the team are no longer listening to BH
He’s lost the dressing room
because he’s a nice guy

He won’t get it back - time to move on

Best post I've seen on here for a long time totally agree 100% move them 4 on is a priority for Hodgson and Pearson

Stats are awful for every player except Satae.

OK saying move those 4 on, but 3 are under contract and we need replacements in a really tough market, unfortunately think we are stuck with them for another season.

The key thing is that these players are accountable, if they never get dropped where in the incentive to play.

Its unbelievable that Houghton has to play 80 minutes every week.

BH rewards poor performance with position security !
It’s much bigger than individual players - come on !
It’s BH and KP and also AP must be too soft

Well Houghtons out of contract so there's one we can say thank you for your services too. Distribution is getting worse, and head doesn't look in it at times.

Shaul has he got another year after this one? If so try and loan him out with his wages covered for next season.

Taylor same as above.

Griffin same as above.

You've got to question, the decisions from the top, contract renewals and judgement on players, leaving a hell of alot to be desired. Still alot of work to do on this squad, Hodgson isn't helping by persevering with massively out of form seniors and players who have been told they arnt needed by the club anymore.

Catch 22 stick with the ones with the wrong mentalitys and bad form and hope for the best.

Or introduce an academy batch, putting up with maybe short term pain, but the experience will do them good, plus the effort and desire would be there.

Very intrigued what happens end of season, as soon as Connor got injured this season was done for me, as we're way too 1 dimensional, and Hodgson seems to have no plan or attacking strategy in place.

I'd be working my hardest to remove the 4 mentioned, and shrewdly if possible signing some senior pros to replace them who have strong leadership and professionalism, to compliment the talent coming through.

Just watched the highlights, made me feel worst.

Some awful defending from everyone, but particularly Houghton, Scott, Mcintosh, Lane and Shaul.

We can't afford to cover those 3 wages, we are looking to cut the cap, think we need to except these 3 (4, as Houghton will have a new deal already) next season.

Hodgson needs to grow some balls and drop the likes of Houghton and Taylor this season, send out a message. Will never happen though.

If that's the case then dropping them is the only way forward.

I just don't think Hodgson is brave enough, Andy Last had the balls to bench Houghton during a poor patch.


If they don't play next season they don't count towards the cap, will Pearson take the financial hit?

I agree I don't think itl happen, and I think we l see a big drop off in pass sales personally. People are fatigued with it all now.

Trueman aside who are we signing to bring change?
.

Not sure how it works with the cap, but I thought they only counted once they played a game.

Pearson ain't paying any off though.

Where was Renolds when you need him

I think we will bring in another halfback/fullback, hopefully a backrower too.

One thing we need next season is some luck with injuries.