Our basic skills are awful. We can't even catch and pass properly. How many dropped balls tonight? Catalans are terrible and we never looked like winning it

I think Radford got it wrong tonight, Carlos is too good to be sat on the bench with the key players we had out.

be interesting what the team is next week

Can't disagree with any of that.

Hopefully we can raise our game in the Cup and get back to Wembley. Big job on the cards for Pearson, Radders and Ellis with recruitment to ensure 2016-2017 wasn't just a flash in the pan.

We have a small squad and he had no other forwards so was using Griffin as a 2nd row option.green and cash injured and westerman not ready

No excuses simply not good enough we are repeating the same poor discipline, sloppy/careless handling and poor last play options.
We are shocking in the oppositions 20.
Radford for all he's done really has got to sort the basic errors that are killing us.

We were winning 14-8 when he was on the pitch, so I can't see what difference it made.

I just wonder what we actually do at the training ground.
We keep saying the same things week after week.Poor Discipline,Too many errors, Cant break a side down in the opposition 20 other than a kick to the corner yet nothing changes.
We dont run onto the ball for momentum,have no plan B when we find it difficult coming off our line other than bang and biff down the middle when the good teams stretch the opposition moving the ball wide.
Even Wigan this season have changed their style of play,its about time Radford did the same because if you take Kelly out of the team we are bang average

any news on Kelly?

Just been seen in mcdonalds in perpignan

Errors , indiscipline and playing too much down the middle .
Pack is soft this season. Paea and Motongo need to step up . Mini and Sika in the twilight of their careers . Did Manu play in the second half?

sounds like a similar injury that Hadley had,so not good news

Not laying the defeat at his feet, we managed to do that all by ourselves, but Child is pathetically hopeless.

Didn't give one penalty for offside all, game and allowed so much messing about at the pub it ruined the game

He's fecking useless.
Always has been.

The problem is Radford is trying to fit Griffin in.
Give Griffin a run off the bench as a second row.He is not consistent enough as a centre.

again we didn't lose because of the ref, buy gee some of his decisions where boggling, giving knock ons when the ball went back, laying on,

Griffin is not the problem though

Washy, I'd have swapped Carlos for Abdul and had Connor at 6. Seems strange to bring in Abdul instead of Connor at 6.

Should have had the game won at halftime, I think we would have been more than 6 points up with Carlos at centre and Connor at 6.

Take Kelly out and we are clueless and e....
There are so many reasons why we lost tonight I don't know where to start:

1) Squad disruption did not help (but we have strength in depth ... don't we?!)
2) Despite having a big turnaround look knackered from the start
3) Pack did not get on top (again)
4) Far too man silly penalties at the ptb...
5) as bad as he was i though I don't think the ref was equally as bad both ways - we got the worse of Mr Hicks (but that's no real excuse - we all know he is crap!)
6) Did we go home @ 1/2 time ?
7) How many 1./2 backs can you lose in a game (injury and sin bins!?!)


Connor needs to learn to shut his mouth. He is a good player - but his mouth and general attitude is costing us games!

Didnt say he was.
The point made by Dave was why have our best centre on the bench.
The reason as i said is Radford sees Griffin as a metre maker and doesnt want to drop him yet to Start Griffin in front of Tuimavave to me sends out the wrong message.

Especially when you know ‘Conner and Kelly’ have worked well together before

Jesus, Catalans are really cr@p, and have been all year.
We had to be really cr@p to get beat by them, and most of us knew there was a chance we could be.