Every week in football, there'll be at least two - usually more - managers complaining about how the officials have wronged their team. RU is even worse in that the rules are so needlessly complicated that literally any interpretation could be correct or incorrect. The point is though, that if standards of refereeing are just as 'poor' in other sports, maybe that's just the nature of the beast, and all sports fans have to accept that human beings make errors.

Are you watching Wire vs Leeds?

Shocking decision. If you don't see red for blind-siding an opposition player with a punch right in front of the referee, what exactly do you have to do to get sent off?

Child is an example of someone promoted way beyond his ability. Together with Roby he simply isn't SL standard. Has no idea how to control a game.

He's bottled that, pure and simple. Can't say he didn't see it, and there's absolutely no excuse for Briers to still be on the pitch.

Thing for me regarding the Catalan Match.. Gentle said in the paper that he was taking things back to basics regarding our defense and approach to the attacking side.

Our defense never let a try in despite many drop outs and plays within our 20.

Many say that Catalan never threw much at us, but me personally i feel our defense shut anything down early before they could.

Are the players not learning the set plays which Gentle trying to teach??

Plus anyone get the deja vu feeling.. Knocked catalan out challenge cup - got to final..

Knock catalan out play offs - Grand Final??

Steady now. However,if we come up against Wire and do the same you may have a point.

If the players still haven't got his plays after nearly 2 years either he's completely useless at getting his message across or his plays are too complex for anyone to understand. Either way he needs to sort it out. I also see no real evidence we are trying any set plays

Or the players are too stupid to understand?

Quick to judge Gentle.. But he can only teach, the players need to learn.

Regarding Set Plays, the players have tried some from the scrum and off penalties of which ive seen this season.

Makes him pretty stupid for persisting with it for 2 years then

Gentle has had nearly 2 years so hardly quick. Re set moves I mean evidence of structured moves in the opposition 20 metre area

The blind side move that Whiting scored from in the semi is a set move. We also have the left shift that virtually every team uses. It's the quality of the execution under pressure that leaves a lot to be desired which is disappointing.

Not saying we never use them and you're right, when we do, we generally look slow and ponderous, however we seem to have less use of them than other teams

Good observation Redboy, totally agree. + Westy has now had 2 good games simply hitting the line hard and at pace, like a 2nd rower should.

Well we know the ball back inside move .

How can you take defence back to basics? That's what i didnt understand from Gentle's interview - although it was outstanding at times. When we defend aggressively we look good, just doesnt happen enough!

Pelissier has been charged by the RFL for standing on Heremaia. No charge for the spear tackle similar to the one by Heremaia at Wembley which copped him a ban. In other news, Briers charged for punching Ablett. www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary

Pelissier has been charged by the RFL for standing on Heremaia. No charge for the spear tackle similar to the one by Heremaia at Wembley which copped him a ban. In other news, Briers charged for punching Ablett. www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary

Eloi Pelissier of Catalan Dragons has been charged with the Grade A offence of standing on an opponent in the 57th minute of the Super League elimination play-off against Hull FC.

He actually tries it in the 53rd minute as well about 10m out from our line - think it was Tickle or Watts that he tries to do it to, but they are in the act of running away from the PTB so he couldnt connect properly

What the frig was Evander Holyfield doing there?

Is he Radders next opponent?

He was doing a speech/dinner type thing in one of the function rooms.

Cheers

That's Riddick Bowe and Evander Holyfield who have been to watch us this season.

Can we have Iron Mike and Marvelous Marvin next season please

Riddick Bowe actually tweeted Evander to give us a cheer against the Dragons

my man @holyfield u are there. help my hull boys finish off the dragons! @hullfcofficial