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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"arriving earlier has a negative impact on performance..sorry Paul but that is nonsence.'"
what a ing hob nob you are! that's the time they have set off every game before so y change it its a bad accident which if anything they set off to early otherwise they would of got through like Bradford did but bigger picture is someone may have died tonight so spare a thought for his family you Muppet at least we can see the rugby on Sunday no problem.
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| If players arriving at work a couple of hours early is too much for them then they might benefit from something to stop them feeling that way. How much too early is that then..is that better than being late or not arriving at all. I know what I would expect as an employer.
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| I've heard PG's been on the phone to Sharpy asking him to keep a lookout for a beach house in Manly.
Don't know if it's true like?
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| Quote ="lewis_hullfc"what a ing hob nob you are! that's the time they have set off every game before so y change it its a bad accident which if anything they set off to early otherwise they would of got through like Bradford did but bigger picture is someone may have died tonight so spare a thought for his family you Muppet at least we can see the rugby on Sunday no problem.'"
The bigger picture is not what is being discussed is it? As for your name calling, well done you on being able to re-arrange letters, you're all growd up now aint yah...
As for Sunday I can't now make it..I've a 3.5hr journey home so belt up child
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Maybe a better question would be how many times any person hasn't been delayed on journeys into Hull along the M62 full stop never mind on a Friday afternoon. that they are players for a professional sport should ensure you take account of the road you are on, the day and time of travel. clearly there is no leeway in the travel plans
Sensibly you would be leaving at 1pm after people have gone back to work from lunch and long before people start to filter for the friday afternoon rush...IMO of course
I'm not frothing or even that bothered but trying to make the point that it could/should have been avoided'"
You're either being incredibly unfair or incredibly stupid.
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| Quote ="chico's nose"First and foremost, I understand that accidents can happen at any time, and often cause massive disruption for people caught up in the aftermath. I must also point out that I sincerely hope that nobody has been seriously hurt; however, I can’t help but feel that this cancellation could have all been avoided and reflects badly on Hull FC.
For far too long, I have gone to various watering holes for pre match drinks before home games only to witness players drive past heading to the KC stadium with only 90mins or so to go before kick off. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out that this is potentially
pushing the boundaries in case something goes wrong, and today the club has been found lacking in professionalism in this area imo.
Yes there was an accident that caused significant disruption, but the simple fact remains that the Bradford Bulls (with the aid of a police escort), match officials, a small proportion of away fans and a section of FC fans that travel down the M62 to home games all managed to make their way to the KC, yet some of our starting 17 didn’t!!!!
Some people might not agree with this opinion, but I can only imagine what the post would be like if we had travelled to Odsal only for the game to be cancelled under the same circumstances.
Hull need to learn lessons from this and ensure that in future all players are in Hull for a pre match meal and final video session 3 to 4 hours before kick off.'"
Please refer to my earlier post. If you get caught in the mo mans land of between junction and accident it appears it doesn't matter what time you set of, if there is an accident you could just be unlucky.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"If players arriving at work a couple of hours early is too much for them then they might benefit from something to stop them feeling that way. How much too early is that then..is that better than being late or not arriving at all. I know what I would expect as an employer.'"
What makes you think that the time they arrive at the stadium is up to the players to decide?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"You're either being incredibly unfair or incredibly stupid.'"
why is it unfair though?
I hear about the M62 and it's problems on a friday all the time, why would you leave yourself such a small window when arriving earlier by a few hours should have no bearing whatsoever. By not arriving at all or risking that chance is just crazy to put yourself in that position
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| Quote ="Kosh"What makes you think that the time they arrive at the stadium is up to the players to decide?
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Doesn't matter if the players or the club take the repsonsibility, it's wrong for who is making the decision to leave no leeway for the given journey on that road at that time of day(rush hour on a friday). This time it has gone tits up due to unforseen circumstances that with better advance planning could well have been avoided.
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| AP should buy Parkers.
Convert the upstairs into 17 self-contained luxury apartments and make sure the boys all reside there the night before games.
He could gat Radders to march them all across West Park in single file, arms swinging, at 5-55pm prompt matchnights?
Simplez.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Doesn't matter if the players or the club take the repsonsibility, [uit's wrong for who is making the decision to leave no leeway for the given journey on that road at that time of day[/u(rush hour on a friday). This time it has gone tits up due to unforseen circumstances that with better advance planning could well have been avoided.'"
I'd get you PGs number so you can tell him, but I'm too busy planning for unforeseen circumstances
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"The bigger picture is not what is being discussed is it? As for your name calling, well done you on being able to re-arrange letters, you're all growd up now aint yah...
As for Sunday I can't now make it..I've a 3.5hr journey home so belt up child'"
so that is the reason your been really out of order because you cant make it? well i am very sorry that a freak accident happened and someone could of died very inconsiderate of them ill pass a message onto the club to make sure that next time they set off at least 10 hours before to sit around and do nothing that's a good way to prepare for the game isn't it.
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| The FC players left in plenty of time under normal circumstances, including fully accounting for heavy Friday night traffic
The FC players left earlier than the Bradord squad and were trapped between junctions
The club made every effort to get the game on, including trying to get individual players out of the gridlock
Both clubs wanted to play the game, but it wasn't possible
All agreed to postpone for 2 days, giving a better quality contest
The extent of some fans' insistence on blame and negativity is ludicrous.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"why is it unfair though?
I hear about the M62 and it's problems on a friday all the time, why would you leave yourself such a small window when arriving earlier by a few hours should have no bearing whatsoever. By not arriving at all or risking that chance is just crazy to put yourself in that position'"
I spent about 15 years travelling from Leeds to Hull on Friday evenings and the motorway has only fully closed due to an accident on a handful of occasions. Tonight I attempted to make the journey over, part of the problem was the stupid motorway sign at the A1M junction stating a 15 min delay. There was simply not enough advance warning of the problems ahead, lets face it when you're driving up the motorway on your own you can hardly keep an eye on developments on Twitter etc.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"why is it unfair though?
I hear about the M62 and it's problems on a friday all the time, why would you leave yourself such a small window when arriving earlier by a few hours should have no bearing whatsoever. By not arriving at all or risking that chance is just crazy to put yourself in that position'"
The players are employed not owned.
Just the other week my son was stranded on the M6, due to all that snow. He was fortunate in that he got through after a few hours, but many others spent the full night in their cars. That would have been at least 14hrs+
Since we know that these things can and do happen, would you suggest that players (employees) set off at least 18hrs before a game (work)?
Perhaps all employees should set off several hours before they start work (just in case)
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Quote ="CHEWIE7"How can a fan of a club that was 'saved' by the rest of the SL community come out with that. You are only around because of 'our generosity' .
Tonights call off was unavoidable...... Our players were caught up in a serious accident. They were not late,
they were unlucky to be past an 'escape route' from the M62.
The club are not gonna refuse entry as long as there is a chance the game can go ahead. I was asked to hang onto my ticket 'just in case'. The stub wasnt ripped off and is still valid. I cant use it on Sunday as i'm working away...... but I'm sure i can redeem it at another game !
Maybe you should think before you post !!!!'"
if the players had left earlier when the traffic would have been quieter then they would have reduced the travelling time in any case and taken responsibility for ALL travel emergencies on a notorious stretch of motorway.
To defend the actions of such is just making a mockery of common sense..seemingly lacking from some FC fans...'" '"
I really hope you are take the .
That's like saying, my friend who worked in the twin towers should have rang In Sick the day he was murdered on 9/11.
Before you claim I have "bitten", well no I haven't,now run along and stop being a pri.ck.
Oh, and that "notorious section or the m62.????? Try the section between chain bar and Ikea. I doubt you could get a tooth pick in that let along an upturned tanker.
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| There is an asteroid (asteroid 2012 DA14) due to 'supposedly' near miss earth on the 15th Feb @ 2.24pm.
We play Saints on the 15th @ 8pm.
Do you think we ought to bring the game forward (just in case)?
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| Well I've come home, got together all my arctic-proof clothing and I'll be back at the KC at first light tomorrow. I'll also have my 2 man tent in which I intend to spend the weekend. Wouldn't want to be accused of not being ready, would I??
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| I have my opinion and have given valid reasons, there's absolutely no valid reason not to leave earlier.
That people choose to make excuses for the bulls and the fc players makes me think reasoning is somewhat missing from many forum members.
As for the very few coming out with personal insults, grow up ffs.
As an aside, to the poster who said I was ed off because I now can't make the game Sunday, nope you're wrong. I'm not ed off at all. in fact despite some forum members frothing because I have the temerity to question the logic of leaving late friday afternoon for an event your partiiation was required at for 10000 fans indirectly paying your wages it amuses me that people just don't understand but have to come out with (not so)smart mouth responses because they don't have a valid reason for the players leaving earlier....lol
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I have my opinion and have given valid reasons, there's absolutely no valid reason not to leave earlier.
That people choose to make excuses for the bulls and the fc players makes me think reasoning is somewhat missing from many forum members.
As for the very few coming out with personal insults, grow up ffs.
As an aside, to the poster who said I was vexed off because I now can't make the game Sunday, nope you're wrong. I'm not vexed off at all. in fact despite some forum members frothing because I have the temerity to question the logic of leaving late friday afternoon for an event your partiiation was required at for 10000 fans indirectly paying your wages it amuses me that people just don't understand but have to come out with (not so)smart mouth responses because they don't have a valid reason for the players leaving earlier....lol'"
There was no valid reason for them to leave earlier either.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The FC players left in plenty of time under normal circumstances, including fully accounting for heavy Friday night traffic
The FC players left earlier than the Bradord squad and were trapped between junctions
The club made every effort to get the game on, including trying to get individual players out of the gridlock
Both clubs wanted to play the game, but it wasn't possible
All agreed to postpone for 2 days, giving a better quality contest
The extent of some fans' insistence on blame and negativity is ludicrous.'"
There have been comments made by James Clark and Peter Gentle that somewhat contradict each other which i dont think has helped the situation.
Speaking personally, i think the right decision was reached in the end. The most important people are the fans and the switch to sunday will hopefully allow all to attend.
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| Quote ="Chris28"There was no valid reason for them to leave earlier either.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing'"
yes there was a valid reason, more than a reason not too
...anyway as i said that people dont want to see it is up to them, that some are out of order with their responses is another indictment of the mentality of the forum at times
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| Putting aside the fact the players were delayed etc why on earth are we not meeting as a team 3-4 hours before kick off to have a carb heavy meal and go through the final preparations for the match? If the West Yorkshire players are only setting off 4 hours before kick off how are they managing to carb load at the right time? I don't blame the players for being late I blame club policy for allowing for the possibility of them being late and seemingly not taking a particularly sports science based approach to pre-match preparations.
All this burning nervous energy twaddle is just nonsense anyway. The players don't have to necessarily be at the stadium 4 hours before kick off but they should at least be in the same city. Why can't they arrive 4 hours before kick off, sit down as a team for a meal, go through any last minute videos etc then all travel to the stadium together to arrive at the same time they do now ie 2 hours before kick off.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Putting aside the fact the players were delayed etc why on earth are we not meeting as a team 3-4 hours before kick off to have a carb heavy meal and go through the final preparations for the match? If the West Yorkshire players are only setting off 4 hours before kick off how are they managing to carb load at the right time? I don't blame the players for being late I blame club policy for allowing for the possibility of them being late and seemingly not taking a particularly sports science based approach to pre-match preparations.
All this burning nervous energy twaddle is just nonsense anyway. The players don't have to necessarily be at the stadium 4 hours before kick off but they should at least be in the same city. Why can't they arrive 4 hours before kick off, sit down as a team for a meal, go through any last minute videos etc then all travel to the stadium together to arrive at the same time they do now ie 2 hours before kick off.'"
I'll pass Gentles number on to you too
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| Quote ="Chris28"
I'll pass Gentles number on to you too'"
Why? I'm sure he is already fully aware of the concept of carb loading before a match since its accepted best practice for lots of sports.
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