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| Quote ="PAUL M"I meant in terms of giving players renewals.
Martin was only ever meant to be a one season and we tried for a centre in the winter so that would seem obvious. With Moa likely to go then a prop would also be a no brainer. SO is more my own thoughts about how to take us forward and would involve paying Horney off.
I would not automatically be giving Ogre another deal just yet.'"
I don't disagree with that. In fact I never actually outright said I'd definitely get rid of Turner, just that I'd be preparing for it as so far I wouldn't be inclined to keep him unless he improves defensively. It just would seem to me that if you think we still need a centre you must be leaning towards Turner leaving as well as Martin, so you kind of have made a decision (or at least have one in mind). This is my stance too, and seems entirely sensible to me (and plenty of others, judging by centre being consistently identified by people as a priority area to recruit). That's why I don't understand Voodooroo seeming to have a problem with me basically saying what many others already have, just because he had a good game last week.
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| Quote ="Panda92"These are the FC players OOC at the end of the season:
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Aspinwall
Kent
Pearce
Burnett
Who would you guys retain/release?'"
Our aspirations for signing top class centres, SO's, props, and potentially Ellis doesn't look too promising when you think what salary cap could/will be free'd up + the reported 60K going spare.
Don't think Sharp will be going anywhere, certainly not if Briscoe goes down under (would leave us looking for 2 new wingers)
Martins age & lack of pace will see him go but Turner to stay for me, as him and Yeamo our only 2 real options for centre and we'll need another good one from somwhere.
If Moa and O'Meley (i'd keep both) do return down-under then we'll need to spend big bucks on like-for like replacements! Manu's got to stay if possible as he's one of best SR's in SL and still is a 'game changer'.
Apart from sacrificing some of the kids listed, this just leaves Burnett, Aspinwall, and Whiting as the senior pro's who might join Martin on the exit list. Asuming Martin, Burnett (and even Aspinwall) are on relatively low wages it isn't going to give PG and SM very much cash to splash !
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I don't disagree with that. In fact I never actually outright said I'd definitely get rid of Turner, just that I'd be preparing for it as so far I wouldn't be inclined to keep him unless he improves defensively. It just would seem to me that if you think we still need a centre you must be leaning towards Turner leaving as well as Martin, so you kind of have made a decision (or at least have one in mind). This is my stance too, and seems entirely sensible to me (and plenty of others, judging by centre being consistently identified by people as a priority area to recruit). That's why I don't understand Voodooroo seeming to have a problem with me basically saying what many others already have, just because he had a good game last week.'"
Depending on cap space I wouldn't et rid of Turner tbh. I would try and keep him as a utility player, back row and centre. I don't think he will be on a huge wage. He's excellent in attack but lets himself down in defence but with a year under Gentle that may change?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Depending on cap space I wouldn't et rid of Turner tbh. I would try and keep him as a utility player, back row and centre. I don't think he will be on a huge wage. He's excellent in attack but lets himself down in defence but with a year under Gentle that may change?'"
Hopefully it will. It's just a questionable use of cap space to me. If it's spare, fair enough, but I think out of the OOC players something's got to give somewhere.
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| Quote ="Panda92"These are the FC players OOC at the end of the season:
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Who would you guys retain/release?'"
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| Leeds fans think Ellis is nailed on to sign there, apparently his dad has told someone he is signing for Leeds, wouldn't really be a surprise and can't really blame him.
Must keep Whiting, O Meley and Manu. I'd sign them now (Along with Moa, but think he will go)
The rest I still playing for contracts IMO.
Hopefully Jamie Ellis will come good and Seymour can play standoff, meaning Horne can be utility back or right centre (where he would do a good job IMO).
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| Doesn't the cap only cover our top 25 earners?
Pointless to release players like Green, Pearce, Nicklas if we don't gain cap space.
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| Tbh I'd look to bring in current sl players, if Moa returns to aus I'd certainly look at Liam Watts.
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| Now we are best friends with them.
I'd test Rovers out with a bid for Scott Taylor, best young forward about IMO.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Now we are best friends with them.
I'd test Rovers out with a bid for Scott Taylor, best young forward about IMO.'"
Agree, gonna be a cracking player! and he's a Hull fan!
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| Quote ="Dave K."Now we are best friends with them.
I'd test Rovers out with a bid for Scott Taylor, best young forward about IMO.'"
Totally agree and Rovers can't afford to turn down cash
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| Quote ="FC MONK"Totally agree and Rovers can't afford to turn down cash'"
Could have had him webo, but wasn't impressed with his meeting with Agar n co, fwiw do think he will come whenhis deal expires at kr
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| I can't see it, HKR wont give him up without a fight.
Players soon forget which club they support when it's their living.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I can't see it, HKR wont give him up without a fight.
Players soon forget which club they support when it's their living.'"
you could just dangle a twenty on some fishing wire and take him while the board are tripping eachother up to get said twenty
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| Quote ="Dave K."Now we are best friends with them.
I'd test Rovers out with a bid for Scott Taylor, best young forward about IMO.'"
He wanted to sign for us and would have taken less cash, but KR offerded a longer contract. Ridiculous by Agar and the last board to miss out on him. Thankfully we have a complete new set up. Agar kept Thackray and Kingy instead of Scotty Wheeldon, let Josh Hodgson go after being player of the season in the under 20s, when we could have let him go out on loan and brought him back when Berro left he couldnt deal with Kids.
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| Quote ="gary-hfc"He wanted to sign for us and would have taken less cash, but KR offerded a longer contract. Ridiculous by Agar and the last board to miss out on him. Thankfully we have a complete new set up. Agar kept Thackray and Kingy instead of Scotty Wheeldon, let Josh Hodgson go after being player of the season in the under 20s, when we could have let him go out on loan and brought him back when Berro left he couldnt deal with Kids.'"
As poor as Agar and the last board's handling of the youngsters was, it should be pointed out that neither Wheeldon nor Hodgson have exactly been pulling up trees since they left.
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| Quote ="Kosh"As poor as Agar and the last board's handling of the youngsters was, it should be pointed out that neither Wheeldon nor Hodgson have exactly been pulling up trees since they left.'"
Spot on.....
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| Houghton is much better than Josh Hodgson, in my opinion, anyway.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"Houghton is much better than Josh Hodgson, in my opinion, anyway.'"
Houghton is better than most hookers, let alone an FC reject 
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| Quote ="Kosh"As poor as Agar and the last board's handling of the youngsters was, it should be pointed out that neither Wheeldon nor Hodgson have exactly been pulling up trees since they left.'"
Indeed.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"Houghton is much better than Josh Hodgson, in my opinion, anyway.'"
No , Sherlock
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| Quote ="Kosh"As poor as Agar and the last board's handling of the youngsters was, it should be pointed out that neither Wheeldon nor Hodgson have exactly been pulling up trees since they left.'"
I agree Houghton is a better hooker but Josh is progressing well and playing a couple positions, we need more than one hooker he wont be on a kings ransom either, leaving salary cap to be spent elsewere. Wheeldon i like very proffessional, runs hard, still young with time to learn far better than Thackray who we kept which was my point.
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| The thing about Hodgson and Wheeldon is that they were/are club-trained for you guys. [uIf[/u you're looking to replace Horne and Briscoe departs to the NRL in the not too distant, you're down to Yeaman and Houghton as definate members of your first choice 17, with Whiting there or thereabouts. That limits scope for recruitment and adding depth to your squad.
Washbrook, Hall and Wheeldon may not be world-beaters, but they'd have allowed you options that (for example) Turner, Sharp and O'Carrol don't. Hindsight is great, but a policy of 'not good enough, get rid' in anticipation of plenty more where they came from, ignored that there is now competition for local youngsters.
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| So we keep players not good enough so we have enough home trained players. The home trained players will be made up of youth players, such as green, crooked, Nicklaus, kent, Pearce, Bowden, Lyne and the Cunningham brothers. We will be fine now we have a coach and management who care about youth. Neither wheeldon or Hodgson would get into our first choice 17 and will be on a lot more money than the players mentioned above, so no regrets for me on this issue.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"The thing about Hodgson and Wheeldon is that they were/are club-trained for you guys. [uIf[/u you're looking to replace Horne and Briscoe departs to the NRL in the not too distant, you're down to Yeaman and Houghton as definate members of your first choice 17, with Whiting there or thereabouts. That limits scope for recruitment and adding depth to your squad.
Washbrook, Hall and Wheeldon may not be world-beaters, but they'd have allowed you options that (for example) Turner, Sharp and O'Carrol don't. Hindsight is great, but a policy of 'not good enough, get rid' in anticipation of plenty more where they came from, ignored that there is now competition for local youngsters.'"
We have Kent,Cooks and Bowden to replace those not good enough and other players coming through the ranks as well.We shaould have kept them as they are club trained,if thats the case,clubs will not sign anyone and just rely on players who are not good enough or a shed load of Aussies.
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