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| Think what this does tell us is that he should not be in the running for captain/vice captain.
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| Eh up, its good on here innit!
Is it just me or is noone actually that shocked at any of this anymore? Its been a few years now of sagas etc etc
My own opinion is that people do deserve chances in life, to make up for their mistakes. Whether this is in jail, or being sacked and reflecting on things or otherwise.
Drink driving is bad, lets face it. But it is not the worst thing to happen in the world.
What annoys me is well paid sportsmen being so fecking stupid.
Whilst I will shy away from saying get rid, as I believe that to be extreme, I am now very concerned. I would say that we need to make damn sure we tell him what is acceptable, and what is not. If he strays, get rid then.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Eh up, its good on here innit!
Is it just me or is noone actually that shocked at any of this anymore? Its been a few years now of sagas etc etc
My own opinion is that people do deserve chances in life, to make up for their mistakes. Whether this is in jail, or being sacked and reflecting on things or otherwise.
Drink driving is bad, lets face it. But it is not the worst thing to happen in the world.
What annoys me is well paid sportsmen being so fecking stupid.
Whilst I will shy away from saying get rid, as I believe that to be extreme, I am now very concerned. [uI would say that we need to make damn sure we tell him what is acceptable, and what is not. If he strays, get rid then[/u.'"
Listening to gentle i cant see anyone taking the p-ss out of him,and as for pearson i certainly wouldnt mess with him ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="wolfie"Listening to gentle i cant see anyone taking the p-ss out of him,and as for pearson i certainly wouldnt mess with him
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Good and lets hope that is the case!
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Think what this does tell us is that he should not be in the running for [ucaptain[/u/vice captain.'"
One horse race apparently. The luscious Mr Lynch. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"One horse race apparently. The luscious Mr Lynch.
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Think he does have good captaincy credentials, but I personally am still not a fan of newcomers getting the role straight away.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Think he does have good captaincy credentials, but I personally am still not a fan of newcomers getting the role straight away.'"
I dont think the captaincy is as important as it used to be, did'nt Wigan have 5 team leaders last year. If we had just 1 I'd go for danny tickle. he had great season last year and plays loads of minutes. Danny Houghton definately one for the future though
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| I'll throw in joe Westermans name.
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On Seymour IDIOT, but I guess he will know that himself.
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| "Seymour's contract at the Warriors had drink-related clauses in it."
Wonder whether we've done the same?
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"m.watoday.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/brett-seymour-convicted-of-drinkdriving-20111116-1ni37.html?
Will he be coming?'"
Yes.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Yes.'"
Visa? They have contractual criteria. Realistically a drink driving conviction would see it revoked.
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| Didn't greg eastwood first visa get stopped for something similar ?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Wow, and the same people aswell.
Get over yourselves, he's made a mistake, big deal.'"
Several mistakes, none of which he seems to have learnt from.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Several mistakes, none of which he seems to have learnt from.'"
As long as he performs on the pitch, I really couldn't give a flying one what he does off it.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Several mistakes, none of which he seems to have learnt from.'"
Whats it like being perfect.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"As long as he performs on the pitch, I really couldn't give a flying one what he does off it.'"
Really? I think it's very important how our senior players behave, and if there's no discipline, well, we've seen how that pans out. That's without even considering the wider effect of how players' behaviour reflects on the club in general, how it is viewed by sponsors etc.
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| Cant help but think that Seymour is a just plain d!ck after this latest transgression on the eve of him joining his new club. Id cancel his contract now under gross misconduct and go with that weve got.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Whats it like being perfect.'"
Grow up, mate. I don't profess to be perfect, but I haven't been sacked from jobs for poor discipline/alcohol related issues, and I would never get behind the wheel of a car after drinking. He seems to have learnt nothing and I just think that after the upheaval we've had over the last few years, bringing someone in who has the potential to disrupt things further isn't a good idea. It looks like Tansey all over again.
That's not an unreasonable position and, whether you agree with it or not, posts like the one above just make you look petty.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Grow up, mate. I don't profess to be perfect, but I haven't been sacked from jobs for poor discipline/alcohol related issues, and I would never get behind the wheel of a car after drinking. He seems to have learnt nothing and I just think that after the upheaval we've had over the last few years, bringing someone in who has the potential to disrupt things further isn't a good idea. It looks like Tansey all over again.
That's not an unreasonable position and, whether you agree with it or not, posts like the one above just make you look petty.'"
He's an alcoholic not a binge drnker. He has a serious condition that he needs help with. He already has his visa and is now Hull's responsibility until his contract ends. I think the club ought to be looking at ways to help him until that time.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Grow up, mate. I don't profess to be perfect, but I haven't been sacked from jobs for poor discipline/alcohol related issues, and I would never get behind the wheel of a car after drinking. He seems to have learnt nothing and I just think that after the upheaval we've had over the last few years, bringing someone in who has the potential to disrupt things further isn't a good idea. It looks like Tansey all over again.
That's not an unreasonable position and, whether you agree with it or not, posts like the one above just make you look petty.'"
And your posts make you look like your on a witch hunt......Maybe he hasnt learnt from his mistakes but maybe Gentle and Bomber will know how to handle him and i will trust their judgement on this.
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| Quote ="downtheante"He's an alcoholic not a binge drnker. He has a serious condition that he needs help with. He already has his visa and is now Hull's responsibility until his contract ends. I think the club ought to be looking at ways to help him until that time.'"
I take that point, to an extent, but Hull FC is a sports club, not a substance misuse clinic. I don't mean that as callously as it maybe comes across, but there comes a point with any illness/addiction where it starts affecting a person's ability to perform his duties and steps have to be taken. Personally, I'd have preferred it if we weren't in that position to start with.
All that aside, it doesn't excuse his drink driving/failing to stop etc.
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| Lots of double standards on here. Everyone wanted rid of Tansey because of his alcohol related incidents yet because Seymour is seen as our half back saviour people are having very selective memories. History shows Seymour doesnt learn his lesson and has embarassed himself and his new club before hes even got here with this latest incident. I for one now fully expect him to either not arrive or if he does, embarass Hull FC on at least more than one occasion on his stay here and history shows that there is a very strong chance of this.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"And your posts make you look like your on a witch hunt......Maybe he hasnt learnt from his mistakes but maybe Gentle and Bomber will know how to handle him and i will trust their judgement on this.'"
How can I be on a witch hunt? I don't even know the bloke. All I'm saying is we've had enough problems in recent years, and signing a bloke with this sort of baggage has the potential to cause a whole lot more.
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